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Hello Brothers,
I am looking for a source to purchase brass or bronze carriage bolts & nuts... 3/16" (#10) x 1" with machine nuts.
I have tried eBay, Amazon, McMaster-Carr, Fastenall, etc. with no luck.
Any ideas?
 
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First problem is that we are mostly metric but do have some specialist suppliers who do imperial, brass / bronze is the next one. There is a uk supplier of carriage bolts in stainless but not 3/16 . 1/4 20 Unc and 5/16 16 Unc are nearest.

3/16 is close to 5mm and 1/4 very close to 6mm with 5/16 being near 8mm.

Are we on the same page with terminology, I know we have some differences across the pond, I am thinking bolts with domed head and square section underneath ?

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If you could use metric then there are these from

https://www.westfieldfasteners.co.u...ach_Bolt_Carriage_Bolt_M5x25_solid_Brass.html

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Boat Suppliers- some in America are selling silicon bronze bolts #10 which I believe are 3/16" - though I could be wrong, The minimum length however is 1 1/2" - 2".
One of the firms I looked at is" Fawcett Boat Supplies"
 
5mm is 0.006" larger than a #10 so shouldn't cause much of a problem. 0.8mm pitch (the M5 standard) is 31.75 tpi and #10UNF would be 32 tpi so again M5 seems as good a fit as is likely to be.

If purchased as a 'nut & bolt' there wouldn't be any problem with fit either. If the bolts are wanted to match up with existing #10 nuts that could be a challenge.
 
Just an aside, but if you’re planning on using them below the water line, immersed in salt water, avoid brass. The zinc gets eaten away, leaving a skeleton of copper. Best wishes.
I plan to make saw nuts from them. I have a metal lathe and a mill, so, and plan to turn the nuts round, then cut a slot in them. I can't abide paying $7 to $13 each for them, as I recently posted in my "Recent restorations & repairs on a few Backsaws..." post.
https://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/threads/recent-restorations-repairs-on-a-few-backsaws.148259/
http://blackburntools.com/new-tools/new-saws-and-related/saw-bolts/index.html
https://www.amazon.com/Taytools-115720-Solid-Replacement-Handsaws/dp/B07CJSZXSX
 
I plan to make saw nuts from them. I have a metal lathe and a mill

Would it not be more economic just to buy a stick of brass bar of the correct diameter and make the nuts from that? It is a lot easier to hold a nut that is still attached to the end of its parent bar (for thread tapping or slot cutting) than it is an individual item.
 
Would it not be more economic just to buy a stick of brass bar of the correct diameter and make the nuts from that? It is a lot easier to hold a nut that is still attached to the end of its parent bar (for thread tapping or slot cutting) than it is an individual item.
Yes, good point. I really do not know if simply buying a brass rod is more economical(?).
I have a fair amount of it on hand, that I purchased at auctions, yard sales (tag sales on you side of the pond?), and the like.
I will do that if it is required for a proper fit, but I find turning small brass threads vexing at times. On the other hand, tapping brass is simple. What I can say is that it is a lot more work!
The small carriage bolts are good "as is" from the factory for one half of the project. No fuss.
You then only have to fabricate the other half (the slotted nuts).
Brass nuts are ubiquitous and inexpensive compared to brass carriage bolts, which are decidedly difficult to source (in that smaller size) and expensive. Purchased nuts are (of course) already tapped, relieving you of the need to tap a lot of small items.
Turning the nuts is, by comparison, easy. You can simply mount them on bolts of the proper size (with the head cut off), secured in a chuck or collet. I "gang" turn them, multiples at a time. In that manner, they lock themselves in place. The slot is easily cut with a thinner hacksaw blade or a screw-slot file if you do not have a mill.
 
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