Lie Nielsen - So Not Dissapointed

[shed9]

Just took delivery of a LN low angle jointer No. 7 1/2. Just checked to make sure the blade is square and it is - who would have thought it

I know, I know, high end tools won't make me a better woodworker and all that, an old Stanley would do the same or I should have bought a nice pair of Crockett & Jones, but I'm a happy camper.

Not seen much in the way of reviews for this thing so will be happy to report back after using it in (blissful) anger.

Oh and thanks Classic Hand Tools for another faultless delivery and service.

 

[Ian down london way]

Damn it - have to clean the drool out of my keyboard now.

 

[Phil Pascoe]

That cost about four time more than I paid for every plane I possess put together (about twelve) - I hope for that money it does make you a better woodworker.

 

[Paddy Roxburgh]

What's the point of the low angle on a low angled jointer? I do use a low angled block plane for end grain but for jointing surely it would just encourage tear out.
Not trying to knock your beautiful looking plane, just wondering.
Paddy

 

[Derek Cohen (Perth Oz)]

What's the poit of the low angle on a low angled jointer? I do use a low angled block plane for end grain but for jointing surely it would just encourage tear out.
Not trying to knock your beautiful looking plane, just wondering.
Paddy

It's not a low angle when you create a 38 degree secondary bevel on the blade. That will offer a 50 degree cutting angle.

What is wonderful about these BU jointers (I have the Veritas version), is that they are easy to push (low centre of effort) and so well balanced on thin stock (low centre of gravity).

Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[Paddy Roxburgh]

Damn Derek, you've quoted me with my typo (poit) unedited.
Thanks for the answer, I've never tried a posh plane, one of these days I might get one, probably not till I retire as my workplace (dry dock) is quite a harsh enviroment.
Paddy

 

[D_W]

Just took delivery of a LN low angle jointer No. 7 1/2. Just checked to make sure the blade is square and it is - who would have thought it

I know, I know, high end tools won't make me a better woodworker and all that, an old Stanley would do the same or I should have bought a nice pair of Crockett & Jones, but I'm a happy camper.

Not seen much in the way of reviews for this thing so will be happy to report back after using it in (blissful) anger.

Oh and thanks Classic Hand Tools for another faultless delivery and service.

They do finish their tools quite nicely. I never had much favor for what stanley regarded as large planes intended for butcher blocks, but I know a lot of people find favor in them.

Their level of service after the sale is pretty much platinum, too.

The only thing I've found I don't love with the premium planes is that if you progress to heavy use with a plane, their flatness makes their level of friction very high if you don't keep the wax to them all the time. I once made an infill shepherd kit that was the same way - meticulously lapped the bottom and spot lapped it so that it was very flat, and then it was a monster of friction (worse than premium planes as it was mild steel and I worked the sole up to almost a polish).

At any rate, enjoy your plane. One luxury that you have with the LN tools is that despite their cost, if you decide you don't want to have them for some reason in the future, you're likely to get nearly all of your money back. I probably had 10 of their planes at one point (have since sold them in favor of the style of older planes), and while I could be criticized for buying that much expensive gear, LN implemented a 10% price increase, and when the dust settled, I didn't lose any money on the whole lot.

 

[shed9]

I must admit Derek I was very tempted by the Veritas version, it was a close call but went the LN route out of habit I think.

The primary purpose for this tool for me is for thin stock (lots of the stuff) in a range of wood types. Tried it a few times this morning, very noticeable in difference of use and going to take some getting used to. First impressions are very positive. The screws holding the adjustable mouth were incredibly tight and nearly required mechanical leverage before giving way - not sure why they were like this from the factory.

I agree D_W, price wise, its very much a lease agreement if you want to part ways in the future with LN kit.

 

[Derek Cohen (Perth Oz)]

I must admit Derek I was very tempted by the Veritas version, it was a close call but went the LN route out of habit I think.

Although I have done a lot of pre-production testing for Lee Valley, and as a result have many of their planes, I have a good deal of experience with LN planes as well following many years of demonstrating their tools at woodshows in Perth. The LN version of the BU Jointer is an excellent plane, and will bring you much satisfaction in the years to come.

Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[D_W]

Derek, what is the infill in your avatar? Is it one that you bent the sides on yourself, or is it an old set of metal parts that you refreshed the wood in?

I've just ordered a Norris A5 - I can't decide if I'm going to copy it exactly with slightly improved wood part proportion, or if I'm going to go with an A6 style plane to make instead.

 

[Petey83]

Just took delivery of a LN low angle jointer No. 7 1/2. Just checked to make sure the blade is square and it is - who would have thought it

I know, I know, high end tools won't make me a better woodworker and all that, an old Stanley would do the same or I should have bought a nice pair of Crockett & Jones, but I'm a happy camper.

Not seen much in the way of reviews for this thing so will be happy to report back after using it in (blissful) anger.

Oh and thanks Classic Hand Tools for another faultless delivery and service.

I've got the Veritas version as well as several pairs of the now infamous Crockett & Jones shoes :lol:

I actually bought it for the dining table project I have coming up in the house - I previously had a Stanley 7 that I sold (I like selling tools as has been pointed out) because I didn't use it And didn't think I ever would being a power tool person.

 

[Derek Cohen (Perth Oz)]

David, the plane is a Spier that I rebuilt from a shell and a lever cap ...

... to this ...

I needed to add complete infills, find a suitable vintage double iron (parallel), and build a new lever cap screw.

It was featured in a FWW magazine a few years ago.

And - which will interest you - it works really well with the chipbreaker.

Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[D_W]

Thanks, Derek. I asked because I recall Raney telling me to start with straight sided infills. In his terms, he said "you'll probably have to make 6 or 7 curved sided infills before you get satisfied with the results of one".

I'm thinking about it, anyway, though it is a much smarter idea to do as you've done - find a basket case infill and re-do the wood, and the plane will be quite nice.

I'm hassling a few ebay sellers right now to try to get more than one copy of the norris plane to study. There are a lot of infills for sale on the UK side of ebay where the seller doesn't want to ship to the US, but using a private shipping service will drive the cost up to something I don't want to pay.

A lot of the sellers in the united states and australia seem to think that even a beech-infill A5 is some sort of rare diamond.

 

[iNewbie]

LN's customer service is second to none. They air-shipped me parts for free when they needn't have.

 

[AJB Temple]

Derek. STOP. That is plane ****.
If I had that it would be in display in the house, not in my workshop!

Exquisite piece of work.

 

[RogerP]

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I'm hassling a few ebay sellers right now to try to get more than one copy of the norris plane to study. There are a lot of infills for sale on the UK side of ebay where the seller doesn't want to ship to the US, but using a private shipping service will drive the cost up to something I don't want to pay. ...

I'd willing take a delivery and forward it on to you, but that's still going to be two lots of shipping to pay.

 

[D_W]

............
I'm hassling a few ebay sellers right now to try to get more than one copy of the norris plane to study. There are a lot of infills for sale on the UK side of ebay where the seller doesn't want to ship to the US, but using a private shipping service will drive the cost up to something I don't want to pay. ...

I'd willing take a delivery and forward it on to you, but that's still going to be two lots of shipping to pay.

I may have to take someone up on an offer like that at some point if I can't get sellers more motivated (though I don't blame them for not being. I sometimes run sales like that where people make requests and I just don't feel like it).

The first A5 that I bought, it cost me 40 pounds to ship it from ebay to here (through the global shipping program). I don't remember it being quite that bad, but it might have to do with what the seller was charging to ship it in-country.

I also recall that individuals shipping from the UK don't have a lot of great options for items over 2kg. Our international shipping for anything that doesn't fit in a small flat rate box is pretty much crap here, too.