le livre de l'outil (now with picture)

[toolsntat]

The book of the tool.
A mighty tome equal in size to the late Mr Russell's offering but alas with a French text.
I have been loaned a copy for my perusal but my French leaves alot to be desired.
Would anyone know if an English text to accompany it is available anywhere?
Cheers Andy

 

[AndyT]

You could try Google Translate on your tablet. You can just point the camera at the printed text and watch it turn into English before your eyes. Some of it will be gibberish, but you could always look up a few specialist tool related words if needed. (Though specialist words are probably easier as there can be a simple French to English correspondence. )
You may as well give it a go - it won't cost anything.

 

[toolsntat]

In the real world that would be easy Andy but this old Kindle only has a user facing camera and would involve various contortions only possible by Stretchy Mc Stretch the champion contortionist to get the framing right. :roll: #-o
I was just hoping someone may have taken the not inconsiderable time to transcribe it 8)
An unidentified W&P item I have is in there and the translation fails me :?:
Listed as Sarcloir meaning Hoe which it isn't?
There is by the way 2 trigger operated cutters (but nothing like mine) related to the Vineyard trade.
Cheers Andy

 

[AndyT]

Ah, not so good then, sorry.
If there are particular bits you are interested in, I think a few snaps would count as fair usage and not bother the publishers. There are all sorts of experts on here including a handful of members living in France who might know more than how to order a beer!

Btw, my old Harrap's says that sarcloir is a weeding hoe or spud. What have you found this time!?

 

[boggy]

I have checked 'sarcloir' in Daniel Boucard's Dictionnaire des Outils and it concurs with weeding hoe.
This book is a goldmine and is the French equivalent of Salamon.

 

[toolsntat]

I have checked 'sarcloir' in Daniel Boucard's Dictionnaire des Outils and it concurs with weeding hoe.
This book is a goldmine and is the French equivalent of Salamon.

Thanks for the confirmation so maybe what I have is a hand held weeding hoe as it has a fixed short handle?
Cheers Andy

 

[toolsntat]

Ok the item in question is on the bottom second from the right, light beechwood handle with slightly concave sharp edged metalwork.
Picture from the files of the late RichardT

 

[AndyT]

Well, that's a poser. My first thought from the size and shape would be that it's some sort of weeding spud, but if it's got a functional sharp edge that doesn't sound likely.
It's normal to suggest that it must be for leather, but I have just looked through all of Salaman's Dictionary of Leather Working Tools and not found anything exactly like it.

I must say, that's a fine display of unusual tools. I think we have discussed the oddity in the middle before - with the hinge at the top, the central clip and the strange graduations on the right hand side. Did you ever find out the answer on that one?

 

[knockknock]

About halfway down the page are two of them:

http://www.oldgardentools.co.uk/weeding

Sarcloir

"French. Early 20C. Peugeot Freres. Used for weeding particularly between stones and rocks as well as harvesting cabbages, salad crops etc. Ref: Dictionnaire des Outils by Daniel Boucard."

 

[toolsntat]

About halfway down the page are two of them:

http://www.oldgardentools.co.uk/weeding

Sarcloir

"French. Early 20C. Peugeot Freres. Used for weeding particularly between stones and rocks as well as harvesting cabbages, salad crops etc. Ref: Dictionnaire des Outils by Daniel Boucard."

Thanks for finding that for me and I dare say with the sharp edges this must be for the harvesting side of things 8)
Cheers
Andy

 

[toolsntat]

I must say, that's a fine display of unusual tools. I think we have discussed the oddity in the middle before - with the hinge at the top, the central clip and the strange graduations on the right hand side. Did you ever find out the answer on that one?

Thanks for doing your own bit of digging mate :wink:
Alas no Andy it is still unconfirmed apart from the most likely use being animal orientated as the maker is LONG LONDON a veterinary suppliers.
We need a LONGS catalogue :idea:
Cheers Andy

 

[Bm101]

We need a LONGS catalogue :idea:

American manufacturer, might help though?

http://www.survivorlibrary.com/library/ ... s_1894.pdf

Bit early in the morning for me to be wondering what some of those tools were for. :shock:
Have fun.
Cheers
Chris

 

[Phil Pascoe]

Well, that's a poser.

That's a tool I've not heard of.