Kitchen Cabinets

[LBCarpentry]

And for hinges - I just use ball bearing flush hinges from ironmongery direct. No cutting in just screwed direct to door and frame. Fast and Leaves a nice 1.5mm gap on hinge side.

 

[wsb1207]

And for hinges - I just use ball bearing flush hinges from ironmongery direct. No cutting in just screwed direct to door and frame. Fast and Leaves a nice 1.5mm gap on hinge side.

Saw these the other day, we're building a larder unit soon and was thinking about trying them. Are they strong enough for a bigger door without fitting too many?

 

[monster]

Aiming to buy poplar and American white oak rough sawn - can anyone please give me a rough idea of the price i should be paying? and how is it priced - by the cubic foot?

 

[Doug71]

I haven't bought any Tulipwood since before lockdown but the last lot I got I paid £854.50 m3 + vat from Arnold Laver, that was 31.75mm thick, random widths, rough sawn.

 

[doctor Bob]

................ that was 31.75mm thick, random widths, rough sawn.

:lol: :lol: :lol: you sure some wasn't 31.8mm in places.

 

[monster]

Thanks for that Doug - that gives me something to work off!

Anyone know how the American white oak compares in price to poplar?

 

[Doug71]

................ that was 31.75mm thick, random widths, rough sawn.

:lol: :lol: :lol: you sure some wasn't 31.8mm in places.

I know, I asked for 1 1/4" and that's what they sent me :wink:

Anyone know how the American white oak compares in price to poplar?

I have not bought any Oak for ages, when I do I generally get European White as it's more interesting, last lot I got was about £2000 m3 rough sawn for 27 mm. Oak is different to some hardwoods as it gets more expensive the thicker you get it, most species seem to be about the same price per m3 whatever their thickness.

 

[monster]

Thanks Doug,

Ive just worked out roughly that I'll need about 0.65 cubic m of poplar and 0.35 cubic m of oak, my back of a *** pack calcs tell me that's around £600 for each.

I've put a cut list together so I'll get that into a few places Monday and see what they come back with.

 

[HOJ]

This is only to give you an idea of prices for Oak, from my suppliers web site:

https://www.suttontimber.co.uk/trade/prices/

 

[monster]

So finally started actually cutting something today! Boring the holes for the little brass Hafele shelf pin ferrules. Hafele at great expense sell a little tool that drills the hole, but I don't think it counterbores for the head of the ferrule as whenever I have seen them fitted in cabinets they sit proud of the surface.

I wanted the heads flush so I made a little jig up to guide the router and bored and counter bored a half mm deep recess for the head - they fit nice and snug now and flush with the surface, I'm happy with the finish.

 

[monster]

Sorry its not real wood - but that will come later!

 

[doctor Bob]

are you going brass? they look brass.

and light serano oak?

 

[monster]

are you going brass? they look brass.

and light serano oak?

Ha - Well spotted Bob! Yes its Egger's light Sorano oak and the little inserts are brass. It's a neat way of finishing off the shelf pin holes, only a minor detail - but they all count and hopefully at the end will add up to a half decent job. Ive assembled a few kitchens in the past, but never actually made one before, so I'm feeling my way as I go.

Just about to order rough sawn timber for the face frames and doors - I've never bought or used rough sawn boards before so its all a new experience for me. I have a little old Dewalt DW55 Planer/Thicknesser that I bought off another forum member so thats about to come into use - Ive just been setting it all up, getting the tables level and the blades cutting true. Looking forward to getting into it and learning on the job and its so rewarding to be actually making things!

 

[Alder]

Domino machines are expensive but you can sell them afterwards for not much less than you paid new, however I bet you will find more uses. I also use them to lip the ply shelves with oak and joint the face frame, and make the doors........

I don't think I should have read that... It's a very good way to justify buying a domino...
Are you a hobbyist woodworker or professional? just curious about hobbyist use of a domino.

I guess I'm a hobbyist, definitely not professional, but I do seem to be making a lot of stuff recently, I have gone through a few bulk bags of dominoes. I'm just making a new posh chicken shed, the nest boxes are being made from 12mm external grade ply, fixed with Dominoes....

I hope my Grandsons chickens don't here about the nest boxes with dominoes, his have to make do with roosts from pallet strechers and timber screws.
Russell

 

[monster]

So I've assembled all the carcasses and placed them roughly in situ. Used Domino's and carcass screws so I didn't have to wait for glue to dry in clamps.

Ive also taken delivery of a stack of rough sawn Tulipwood and America white Oak from Lathams. Ive been ripping the tulipwood planks down for the face frame and been running them through the planer/thicknesser today. The DeWalt DW1150 that I bought off forum member LancsRick is working well - I spent some time replacing blades and getting tables square and level and cutting true to the cutter block, happy with the way its performing now, I also bought a small chip extractor from Axminster which is doing a good job of rapidly filling bin bags with chips :|

 

[Max Power]

Looking very good monster, what is the shallow tall cabinet and are the blocks down the side of it packers for end panels to go against ?

 

[monster]

Thanks Max, Shallow tall cabinet is going to be a spice/sauce/bottles cupboard - the wifes orders!

The blocks are just to secure the carcasses in place - the plan is to frame each unit with a sort of fluted pilaster on either side - so those blocks will eventually be hidden also means no visible holes needed in inside of carcass. The pilasters will make for a fair bit of wasted space, but hopefully will look quite nice and end up giving each cabinet more of a 'furniture' feel, rather than just looking like a kitchen cabinet! - that's the plan anyway - just feeling my way really as I've never done anything like this before.

 

[Doug71]

Looking good monster, there is a lot of work in making a kitchen, especially when you are doing it properly. Do you have a deadline, Christmas maybe?

 

[monster]

Thanks Doug, yes Christmas is the deadline - maybe a bit earlier if possible.

 

[monster]

Since I now have a Domino - which I’m very impressed with - does anyone have any tips on how to use it for connecting the face frame together and also for then using it connect the face frame to the carcasses?