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No, it does not.

By the way, I would not put a SIP in the same bracket as a Startrite, in any respect but blade size!
 
LJM, are you sure? I’ve no experience with the saw type but the photos show a arc feature with what like to be degrees on, and the end of the arbor runs in an elongate oval. Both suggest a tilting movement.

However, how the blade slot in the table is very narrow. Which would suggest a non tilting blade. A conundrum!

Looks like a nice condition saw though! Can you go see it in person, or message the seller to confirm?
 
There is another one on eBay 3phase fir £150 and the buyer states the table tilts and nor the saw.
I think I'll keep looking!

Cheers James
 
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Thanks for that disrecomendation!!

Kity 619/axi ok?

Cheers James

Kity, Axminster and SIP are all perfectly good. But my understanding is that Kity was made for hobbiests, and they’re all engineered to a price; there was a recent thread on there about SIP saw woes! The top end Axminster machines are a different matter.

Some of the small models from Axminster are popular, particularly amongst those with limited space. However it baffles me how often I see people have constructed big benches and extensions for these machines; that’s time and money that could have been put into a better machine in the first place! And there are some small machines from Startrite, for example.

If I were buying second hand I would look for an SCM, Wadkin, Startrite etc, which will be a better saw and hold their value better than used Kity, SIP, Axminster etc.

Roughly speaking:
c. £500, a scruffy but working machine (give it a little TLC and you’ll have a good machine), or a 3phase bargain
c. £750, a good example, significantly better than a used SIP, Axminster, iTech etc
c. £1000, a very nice example, with bells and whistles such as a slider, perhaps extractor included and so on

You’re going to need to move, (partly) disassemble/re-assemble and adjust any machine, new or second hand, so the investment of time and effort into a used machine isn’t necessarily that much greater than a new machine.
 
Kity, Axminster and SIP are all perfectly good. But my understanding is that Kity was made for hobbiests, and they’re all engineered to a price; there was a recent thread on there about SIP saw woes! The top end Axminster machines are a different matter.

Some of the small models from Axminster are popular, particularly amongst those with limited space. However it baffles me how often I see people have constructed big benches and extensions for these machines; that’s time and money that could have been put into a better machine in the first place! And there are some small machines from Startrite, for example.

If I were buying second hand I would look for an SCM, Wadkin, Startrite etc, which will be a better saw and hold their value better than used Kity, SIP, Axminster etc.

Roughly speaking:
c. £500, a scruffy but working machine (give it a little TLC and you’ll have a good machine), or a 3phase bargain
c. £750, a good example, significantly better than a used SIP, Axminster, iTech etc
c. £1000, a very nice example, with bells and whistles such as a slider, perhaps extractor included and so on

You’re going to need to move, (partly) disassemble/re-assemble and adjust any machine, new or second hand, so the investment of time and effort into a used machine isn’t necessarily that much greater than a new machine.
Thanks for the detailed information.

Cheers James
 
SIP (Soceite Genevoise) used to make phenomenal machines. I think they made their own bearings even... When the Americans needed a copy of the standard metre bar that France has, It was mate on a SIP Optical machine. I'm guessing it's the same company, if so, it's some fall from grace. I'm kind of rushing right now. need to fit a shower before my partners return....
I wouldn't put modern SIP in the same category as Kity or Axminster. I think new Axminster are overpriced but fairly good. I have repaired some Kity machines, they are pretty good. Startrite are very good. I'm currently trying to rebuild a Junior Whitehead bandsaw and it is a nightmare, I have a Multico surface planer in bits, don't know if they have been mentioned. Old Scheppach used to be ok, I have to go, sorry if I wandered off topic a bit...
 

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