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The U.K. will do massively better under this govt than the last one.

Enjoy :)

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I admire your wishful thinking.
 
Tony, we really dont

there is nothing socialist about the Labour government

it is a party who are increasing taxes a bit to give more money to desperately needed services....like shortening the NHS waiting lists.
Robin, they're socialists, so don't kid yourself or anyone else otherwise!
Looking at the recent budget one couldn't draw any other conclusion. They've ideologically taxed those least likely to vote for them and instead rewarded the hands that put crosses in boxes for them at the polling station.
It was rather thoughtful of them don't you think to take the winter fuel payment from the undeserving pensioners and give the money to the deserving train drivers...

One thing that stands out is that most of the government ministers are drawn from the public sector with little or no business experience which already shows so I can only see the economy going one way!

They've put taxes on employers which will put up the costs of everything in the form of inflation, then they've got planned impractical working practice changes from the lovely Angela waiting in the wings which are undoubtedly going to impact seriously on jobs and employment so you really can't mistake that only socialists would introduce those and then claim it will create growth in the economy. If only!

It took the Tories 10 years to become as unpopular as Starmer has managed in a few months.
 
Whoops I miss-read the report, sorry if I mislead anyone.
As everyone's busy tearing strips off one another (something of which I've frequently been guilty of too); can I just highlight that Mike acknowledged his misunderstand. I'm meaning that as a compliment of a positive contribution; it's not a poke at Mike.
 
Robin, they're socialists, so don't kid yourself or anyone else otherwise!
Looking at the recent budget one couldn't draw any other conclusion. They've ideologically taxed those least likely to vote for them
What nonsense!
They've done the opposite;
not removing the 3rd child benefit limit
stopping winter fuel allowances for pensioners.
increasing NI contributions, i.e. a tax on jobs.
About as un-socialist as you can get!
 
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Yes, and, as they used to say on the buildings down here in Dorset: " And my pr*ck's a bloater".
Are you suggesting that they aren't socialists?
It appears that many left wingers are now distancing themselves from Starmer et al as if they are an embarrassment. I can understand that bit but I'm waiting to hear some supporting evidence to suggest that Starmer et al are actually doing a good job or even know what they are doing let alone the doing the good job part?

Starmer is the Messiah that left wingers prayed for and dreamed about since 2010...their prayers have definitely fallen on deaf ears that's for sure LOL
 
What nonsense!
They've done the opposite;
not dropping the 3rd child benefit
stopping winter fuel allowances for pensioners.
increasing NI contributions, i.e. a tax on jobs.
About as un-socialist as you can get!
I think you'll have to interpret and explain the logic to your answer as I confess that it's all nonsense to me!
 
Are you suggesting that they aren't socialists?
It appears that many left wingers are now distancing themselves from Starmer
This has sweet FA to do with the subject of this thread and everything to do with your favourite hobby horse. Congratulations in advance of getting it relegated to OT2.
 
I think you'll have to interpret and explain the logic to your answer as I confess that it's all nonsense to me!
It's really obvious.
If you can't understand these things you are wasting your time even trying to comment.
n.b. I meant to say "not removing the 3rd child benefit limit" but that should be obvious.
 
I think you'll have to interpret and explain the logic to your answer as I confess that it's all nonsense to me!
It's interesting how he says it's obvious then has to correct what he said to make it understandable.

Also interesting how increased taxes is now anti-socialist considering how often Jacob blathers on about how everyone needs to be taxed to the hilt. Seems to want it both ways.
 
It's really obvious.
If you can't understand these things you are wasting your time even trying to comment.
n.b. I meant to say "not removing the 3rd child benefit limit" but that should be obvious.
So now we have to decipher your posts based on what we think you might have meant rather than what you actually wrote? I think you should have made us aware of this a long time ago: "if I appear to be spouting complete twaddle, it's only because you can't grasp that I obviously meant to say something sensible..."
 
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