Just to get back on topic, Facebook operates on a Fail-Fast policy. This means they will happily take risks that would be inconcievable to a Bank or telecoms company. Facebook have no problem meddling in their systems if it will improve their profit margin. There is no regulator, Zuck owns the controlling share so isn't answerable to anyone, and at the end of the day, as he insists himself, its just a social media platform...
I don't believe it!!!
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Terry - Somerset
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FB can reach every part of the global community in minutes dominating news and opinion with almost immediate effect. They are able (maliciously or otherwise) to promote panic, banking crises, health scares etc. Their capacity for swift control exceeds that of governments.
Failure of a simple router gives no confidence that management are in complete control. Even were we to rely wholly upon the management, it has the potential to be mis-used.
We are horrified at the thought of biological or nuclear weapons under the control of a small group of unelected individuals. Global policies pursued by the west for the last 70 years have sought to restrict the spread - not entirely successfully (eg: N.Korea).
FB has the capacity to catastrophically disrupt global economies and well being to a similar extent Far too much power exists within the control of (ultimately) one individual.
Governments need to be very clear how to control this threat - break up the company, operate a kill switch, etc.
Failure of a simple router gives no confidence that management are in complete control. Even were we to rely wholly upon the management, it has the potential to be mis-used.
We are horrified at the thought of biological or nuclear weapons under the control of a small group of unelected individuals. Global policies pursued by the west for the last 70 years have sought to restrict the spread - not entirely successfully (eg: N.Korea).
FB has the capacity to catastrophically disrupt global economies and well being to a similar extent Far too much power exists within the control of (ultimately) one individual.
Governments need to be very clear how to control this threat - break up the company, operate a kill switch, etc.
Jacob
What goes around comes around.
Ditto the UK press and media.
The bigger threat is from the monopoly of the media by the right. They would like to monopolise FB too, in fact the biggest threat is that FB would sell out - to anybody.
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GregW
Greg W.
Well, isn’t fact checking is actually that?
I had several examples of “independent” fact checkers being wrong as some of them have information from the media, and they base opinions not on facts, but available media information.
With respect, that doesn’t sound like you’re looking at very robust fact checkers.
Out of interest Greg what sources are you basing your opinions on?
You seem very sure of your take on things but other than posting one link to something that wasn’t about Covid you’ve not given anything other than opinion. But you seem very sure. What’s your process for assessing the validity of information?
GregW
Greg W.
Most of fact checking done currently on government narrative are based on government statements, however those government official position change, fact checkers are not corrected any misleading checks.
I give you an example. Before I wax removed from FB
I have posted that “Cov jabs” are not vaccine by definition, and from that very reason no one calls the jabs that way.
Fact checkers mark it as false, as “cov jabs might be not be by definition vaccine, but the are part of vaccination campaign, therefor my statement is false”.
Some months later PM told an official apology that he claimed cov jabs are vaccine, he wasn’t mistaken. My fact checkers we not bother to correct. That is an example.
AlanY
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I wonder if a right-leaning person might have a differing view?
Most of fact checking done currently on government narrative are based on government statements, however those government official position change, fact checkers are not corrected any misleading checks.
I give you an example. Before I wax removed from FB
I have posted that “Cov jabs” are not vaccine by definition, and from that very reason no one calls the jabs that way.
Fact checkers mark it as false, as “cov jabs might be not be by definition vaccine, but the are part of vaccination campaign, therefor my statement is false”.
Some months later PM told an official apology that he claimed cov jabs are vaccine, he wasn’t mistaken. My fact checkers we not bother to correct. That is an example.
The Covid vaccine is a vaccine. In what way do you suggest it isn’t?
If you’re flogging the whole ‘vaccines should be 100% effective’ schtick as described in the link below, what’s the point in it? Vaccines have always not been 100% effective but that doesn’t stop them working (if everyone is vaccinated, even if not 100% effective it’s still enough to stop such high tranmission)
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article254111268.html
GregW
Greg W.
Please find out what is definition of vaccine and what it’s doing to a subject to after application.
Please compare it with mechanics of seasonal jabs, boosters, etc.
Then write misleading information
Jacob
What goes around comes around.
Please find out what is definition of vaccine and what it’s doing to a subject to after application.
Please compare it with mechanics of seasonal jabs, boosters, etc.
Then write misleading information
I have and I still don’t see your point. It’s a state I’m growing used to though.
Trainee neophyte
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There is no such thing as a "robust" fact checker. There is no longer anything remotely like "facts" in the original, s ientific sense of the word - not even for science.
Here is a nicely politicised anti - fact-checking fact check: choose your side, and your facts accordingly
https://www.dailywire.com/news/11-worst-fact-checks-facebooks-new-fact-checkers-aaron-bandler
GregW
Greg W.
That sentence would make Joseph Goebbels giggle….
You should never adjust the fact to a made up state. That will make facts not relevant anymore.
AlanY
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Ah, I wondered what constituted 'far-right'. Apparently, any concern about uncontrolled immigration makes you 'far-right'. Where is McArthy when you need him?
GregW
Greg W.
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PhilipL
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Here we go again. Nits are everywhere. And so confident in their hubris.
Oh dear. I think I’m tapping out of this one.
Jacob
What goes around comes around.
It often feels like missionary work!
ericthebrave
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I thought that i had joined a woodwork and workshop forum !!
GregW
Greg W.
That is off-topic section of that forum
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