Honing Oil

[merlin]

The honing oil in my Viceroy Sharpedge seems to be getting a bit low, the type of oil is listed as DST - dunno what that means but does anybody know whare I can buy some from?
Thanks, Merlin.

 

[bosshogg]

Try UHT milk mate...really

Cheers...bosshogg

 

[MickCheese]

Google says DST is Drill Stem Test?

Still none the wiser?

Mick

 

[yetloh]

Give the guys at G and M Tools a ring - they have sold loads of Viceroys secondhand when they have been removed from schools and machine shops.

Jim

 

[Aled Dafis]

I've no idea what DST is, but I find the honing oil a little thick anyway. I'd be tempted to use soluble cutting oil as used on lathes as it's a lot thinner but still retains some of the anti corrosion and lubrication properties of oil.

Cheers
Aled

 

[merlin]

Thanks for all your comments - not sure about the milkshake though! G&M were helpfull.
I have found some honing oils from Castrol and Millers so will phone them next week, I will report back to let you know how I get on.
Thanks, Merlin.

 

[Benchwayze]

I used to mix new engine oil, and paraffin. Trial and error to get the consistency. A litre lasts a long time., so it works out well if you make a litre at a time.. I transferred it to my 'Singer Sewing Machine oilcan' as I needed to.

But I use water-stones now. They cut much quicker.

John

 

[studders]

Baby(Mineral) Oil and white spirit mixed 50/50 floats my boat, and is almost as cheap as chopped fried potato.

 

[Benchwayze]

Baby(Mineral) Oil and white spirit mixed 50/50 floats my boat, and is almost as cheap as chopped fried potato.

That would work too... As long as it doesn't whiff like Johnson's Baby Powder!



John

 

[studders]

The Oil does... until the White Spirit is added, then the two seem to cancel each other out.

 

[bosshogg]

I wasn't kidding when I said about the UHT milk. This was something I read either in an old Popular Mechanics or Practical Woodworker, also they used to use it down in one of toolshops in the engineering works (can't for the life of me remember which one, could have been Keith and Blackman's) I tried it out and to my surprise it worked very well. The reason is the amount of fat in the milk is just right for lubrication and the milk allows for good contact with the steel, it's almost the thinnest medium around that doesn't cost allot, why don't you give it a try! Cheers...bosshogg

 

[Benchwayze]

Appreciated Boss,

What's the word with the milk going off though? Presume you need to wash it all away after wards. And for the same reason, you could hardly keep it around too long. Do you just raid the 'fridge whenever you need to sharpen? My Missus would go bonkers!

John

 

[bosshogg]

The art of sneekyness is lost these days, as for the souring I thought you might ask, so went back to your original post looked up your sharpener and realised it was a machine. Now I said that one of the engineering workshops used this trick, how they circumnavigated that was never disclosed, however I remember it was a bluish colour, maybe they added dye, that kills bacteria, but I don't honestly know. Perhaps a Google or someone else on the forum could advise?. I have to disclose at this time I used it on my Norton "India" oilstone, not in a machine...bosshogg

I never teach my pupils. I only attempt to provide the conditions in which they can learn.
Albert Einstein (hammer)

 

[barkwindjammer]

I think when 'ye were a loon' Bosshog, the older guys down at the engineering shop were taking the wee wee

 

[bosshogg]

I think when 'ye were a loon' Bosshog, the older guys down at the engineering shop were taking the wee wee

Aye, yeh could be right enough ye ken, noo that I think aboot it... (homer) #-o

 

[bugbear]

Perhaps not; in a thread I initiated a while ago, I was advised to use use "various" dairy products when tapping a thread in copper.

http://groups.google.com/group/uk.rec.m ... d44c65f424

BugBear

 

[merlin]

Well I phoned up Millers Oils and I have bit the bullit and ordered 20l of "honing oil" this is the proper stuff for grinding machines (it is made to order) at £60 I hope it is - - - a bit extravagant I know but then again so was the Stiletto hammer a few months ago.
I will report back when I start using it, Merlin.

 

[bugbear]

Well I phoned up Millers Oils and I have bit the bullit and ordered 20l of "honing oil" this is the proper stuff for grinding machines (it is made to order) at £60 I hope it is - - - a bit extravagant I know but then again so was the Stiletto hammer a few months ago.
I will report back when I start using it, Merlin.

3 quid a litre for almost any workshop liquid is an OK price.

BugBear

 

[yetloh]

Well I phoned up Millers Oils and I have bit the bullit and ordered 20l of "honing oil" this is the proper stuff for grinding machines (it is made to order) at £60 I hope it is - - - a bit extravagant I know but then again so was the Stiletto hammer a few months ago.
I will report back when I start using it, Merlin.

3 quid a litre for almost any workshop liquid is an OK price.

BugBear

Talking to a guy today about his Viceroy grinder. He also paid £60 for honing oil which is £10 more than he paid for the machine but he is happy. They really are great machines, I would rather have one than a Tormek.

Jim

 

[condeesteso]

I am going to try baby oil / white spirit... sounds promising. have been using camelia oil. I assumed oil was oil for honing purposes, Not found much difference but the camelia is nice and fine. 20 litres does sound more than I would need.