hello, new woodturner! Quick question..

[undergruntled]

Hello, I have joined this forum as I have got a lathe, a Tyme Cub and hope to start using it shortly. It was left behind by the previous owner of our house. It seems to work but is missing the faceplate for turning bowls. Instead there is a complicated looking thing in a box which we can't seem to decipher the use of! I'd rather have a plain old faceplate... Does anyone know where we can get one? I suppose Tyme no longer exists from my googling... thanks

 

[MusicMan]

If you can measure the thread it should be easy to get one, but some member may know anyway.

Ah, from http://www.lathes.co.uk/tyme/


"Robustly built, the headstock had a No. 2 Morse taper spindle running in deep-groove, sealed-for-life ball bearings and carried a nose threaded 2 mm x 25 mm
Supplied with each new Avon lathe was a 3/4 h.p electric motor and switchgear (a 1 h.p. was listed as an extra-cost option), a 2-prong drive centre, a solid No. 2 Morse taper tailstock centre and a double-support, 10-inch toolset."

So you look for a faceplate with a 2mm x 25 mm thread.

Please send a photo of the complicated looking thing. It may be a decent chuck. You may need this for finishing off the inside of the bowl after doing the outside on a faceplate.

A screw chuck is also very useful.

Keith

 

[Wildman]

a photograph of the complicated thing could help identify it, sounds like a chuck with coles jaws on.

 

[undergruntled]

Hello, I will take a pic. We have the cub manual, amazingly and it shows a four or six inch faceplate. We have part numbers but a google search comes up with nowt.

 

[SVB]

Hi Undergruntled - welcome to the forum.

My guess is the 'complicated' thing is a multi-star or similar type chuck with removable she'll jaw plates and maybe even the odd elastic band if we're lucky - if so, best start growing at least one if not two, extra arms! :wink:

Seriously, post a photo or make model if there is anything stamped on it and I'm sure someone can help you out.

BRgds

Simon

 

[undergruntled]

Hi there, I can't post pics, it won't let me but it is a maxigrip 2000 apparently. I don't think its complete but has a comp[licated manual that no one can translate. I'd rather have a simple faceplate to be honest.

 

[Rhossydd]

I have got a lathe, a Tyme Cub....... I'd rather have a plain old faceplate... Does anyone know where we can get one?

The Cub had two different thread sizes on the headstock.
The Cub's default size was 20mm x 2mm which is now a rare and difficult size to find much to fit.
If you're lucky it may have had the alternative 3/4" x 16tpi headstock which may be easier to find bits for.

 

[NickWelford]

Iirc, there is a good wood turning club in Spalding. Well worth having a look in to get some tips. I'm sure they would welcome you and show you the ropes without any obligation to join. I don't live far away if you want to come over and look at mine, or I could pop over to Spalding and see what you have there.
Did they leave you chisels as well?

 

[Rhossydd]

"Robustly built, the headstock had a No. 2 Morse taper spindle running in deep-groove, sealed-for-life ball bearings and carried a nose threaded 2 mm x 25 mm
So you look for a faceplate with a 2mm x 25 mm thread.

Sorry , but those details are for the Tyme Avon, not the OP's Cub which was a smaller lathe.

 

[undergruntled]

Hello, it would be nice to join a club. We live in village called Gedney Hill, which is quite near to Spalding. There are chisels which a friend kindly sharpened for us. We have some blanks that we got from a woodshop near Stamford so are keen to get going! I used to use a shop called pennyfathing tools when I lived nearby in Salisbury, round here there don't seem to be any suitable shops for carvers and woodturners..

 

[Lons]

"Robustly built, the headstock had a No. 2 Morse taper spindle running in deep-groove, sealed-for-life ball bearings and carried a nose threaded 2 mm x 25 mm
So you look for a faceplate with a 2mm x 25 mm thread.

Sorry , but those details are for the Tyme Avon, not the OP's Cub which was a smaller lathe.

+1

The spindle size is I'm pretty sure listed in the handbook specs however, I had a cub years ago and not a bad little lathe imo (I had the short bed model) and the spindle was definitely 20mm x 2mm. The reason I'm so sure about that is because I bought a tap specifically to make my own faceplates and I've just checked it.

If there is a chuck there with the lathe, hang on to it as the only place you're likely to find alternatives is I think Ebay.

Have fun
Bob

 

[undergruntled]

here is a pic, hopefully of the complicated looking thing

 

[NickWelford]

Believe me, using the chuck is much preferable to using a faceplate for most things. You just need some education in how to use it.
My sister used to live in Highstock Lane in Gedney Hill. Know it well.

 

[graduate_owner]

Don't be tempted to part with the chuck. I'm sure you will come to appreciate it's potential as you progress in your new hobby.

K

 

[undergruntled]

well, we must be dim 'cos even with the instructions we don't understand how to use it. I know how to fit my blank to a plate, there is no way our blanks will fit in those jaws. I'd happily swap it for a plate. I'm not even sure it's complete... :?

 

[Dalboy]

well, we must be dim 'cos even with the instructions we don't understand how to use it. I know how to fit my blank to a plate, there is no way our blanks will fit in those jaws. I'd happily swap it for a plate. I'm not even sure it's complete... :?

If you get a face plate and a screw chuck then you can prepare the blank so that you can use the chuck. Unless you have a screw that fits into the chuck which is not being shown in the picture.
Take up the offer of being shown how to use it as that will help alot

 

[steadyeddie]

Get rid of the chuck and you will regret it in the future, that's for sure. Once you find out the thread size on your lathe, you should be able to pick up a face plate for a reasonable price.

Dave

 

[beganasatree]

KEEP the chuck

 

[nev]

This is how the chuck works in a bowl making scenario.

You take your bowl blank, lets say a 6inch round by 2 inch deep, and affix centrally to your not yet acquired faceplate, using screws.
The face plate is fixed to the inside of the bowl which you will hollow out later therefore removing the screw holes.
Shape the outside edge of the bowl.
on the base (foot) of the bowl you will create a recess, slightly dovetailed, into which the jaws of the chuck will expand into.
There is an optimum size and shape for the recess hopefully indicated in the instructions, but essentially giving the chuck as much metal to wood contact as possible.*
finish shaping and sanding your outside of the bowl.
remove the face plate from the lathe and bowl and affix chuck to lathe and then bowl to chuck, spinning lathe by hand to check centrality. Once you are happy with the fitting you can proceed to hollow your bowl etc.


*The chuck jaws should form a proper circle when open X amount, this would be the optimum size for your recess. too large or small a recess will result in the chuck only gripping by its edges/ ends and would not give you much support or grip.

see attached very rough sketch

 

[Lons]

Looks ok to me, the spanners are there as well so very hopeful, as I said previously, don't get rid 'cos you'll regret it.

Plenty of instruction on youtube, the internet or books/mags. You wouldn't fit your blank straight into the jaws as you need to turn a spiggot or recess on the bottom of the blank (assuming a bowl for example). You can then tighten the jaws down on to a small spiggot or expand them out to fit into a recess, possibly dovetailed, I can't see from the photo.
The original blank if turning a spiggot could be held between drive centres but preferably on a screwchuck or faceplate which you'd need if cutting a recess.

A faceplate as chuck replacement would be a backwards step. You could buy a tap and might be lucky enough to find a cheap one though they tend to be expensive but why not turn a wood faceplate to fit in the chuck jaws? otherwise it's just keep looking on ebay for a s/h one.

I could maybe be persuaded to sell the tap I have but it's a very good quality one and I don't know tbh.