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I'll be judgy!

If someone walks into your house and walks out with your TV you're going to think that its not right. How is stealing software any different? Sure the physical box of a TV is tangible but most of what you're paying for is for the time to develop a product, to make it and market it, the actual physical components are pretty minimal cost. So why is steeling software any different?

I find it particularly annoying with things like Photoshop as they offer a cut down version for home users and they offer a pretty reasonably monthly subscription offer.

If you want something then you should buy it and pay for it.

There are plenty of free image editing tools around as well, none as good as photoshop, but that what you're paying for.

I know I've got on my high horse about this but if everyone stole copies then Adobe would go bust and then there would be no photoshop. The same is true of illegally downloading music and films if everyone did it then nobody would make any money and the artist / industry would die. Most of us like to be paid for our work!
 
DiscoStu":3qagacw8 said:
I know I've got on my high horse about this but if everyone stole copies then Adobe would go bust and then there would be no photoshop.

I'm not condoning it (nor was I in my first post, so I hope that high horse wasn't neighing at me, but what you've said there is laughable about Adobe struggling if people stole their software. Admittedly if everyone did it then yes, that's not a good business model.

Adobe are doing quite well enough given that well over half their Global userbase has absolutely no idea what a "store receipt for Photoshop" might even be. For years, and years.

It's entered the language, like Hoover.

In the olden days (and speaking as a Photoshop licence holder since 1994 until this online "cloud based" BS) people like Adobe and Autodesk would turn a bit of a blind eye to "creatives" using their software in a non-legit licenced way, knowing that the creatives would then move into industry with a passion for a particular piece of software and demand it at the workplace - course, the World's changed now, everyone's a creative and nobody moves into industry. Text on a picture via an app makes you creative now. And yet, Adobe are still doing alright.

Again, not condoning piracy in any way. But to the OP, yes, that will probably work, whether it's right are not is another story entirely. I did state it's not legal, and it's not, and if you read the link I posted in my original post, it'll explain why too.

Peace.
 
devonwoody":26bxjtm5 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM8X-LWU3vY

Someone posted this article claiming it would not be an illegal download and another poster says it works for him.

Can anyone at the forum say it works etc.

It works.

It's not right.

It's not legal.

BugBear
 
bugbear":331weq04 said:
It works.

It's not right.

It's not legal.

You could probably apply that mantra to 90% of everything on the interwebs. :-D


..and 100% of everything the Govt. does.
 
My neighing wasn't aims at you Wuffles, it was more at the concept.

My point was indeed the if everyone had that attitude the Adobe would fold. What do you think about the "crash for cash" society? Actually to me it's similar. You wouldn't cause an accident and fake an injury would you? Why not? Insurance companies are doing ok, why not scam them? It's the same thing people doing it cause the insurance companies to loose money and therefore the rest of us have to pay. Same with Adobe if you rip them off then the legitimate customers have to pay.

I didn't used to have much of an issue with Students doing it when they were studying because A - their colleges would have bought licences and B - When they went into the world of work they'd want to use Adobe software. However the online option now gives students a reduced rate and makes it viable for them.


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I have free adobe CC, one of the perks of working for a large education establishment :wink:

I usually use Nikon Capture NX-D, but CC does come in handy sometimes.

Pete
 
DiscoStu":1u7t9o13 said:
What do you think about the "crash for cash" society? Actually to me it's similar. You wouldn't cause an accident and fake an injury would you? Why not? Insurance companies are doing ok, why not scam them?[...]Same with Adobe if you rip them off then the legitimate customers have to pay.

I hate it, how do you feel about it? According to below you appear to be condoning students stealing software.

DiscoStu":1u7t9o13 said:
I didn't used to have much of an issue with Students doing it when they were studying because A - their colleges would have bought licences and B - When they went into the world of work they'd want to use Adobe software.

Which is it then? Make your mind up :)

I've not said it's ok, I said Adobe and Autodesk were known to turn a blind eye in the olden days for the same reasons you've just given, but you're saying you saw it happening and "didn't have much of an issue".
 
I used to have a CC subscription but after I left my last company I lost that. I do have an older version of photoshop so I just use that if I need it. I only use for odd things these days.


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Much in the same way that ''home taping is killing music'' in the 80's.
 
yeah just use gimp instead, it's all legal and open source, stealing software isn't something I find funny, it's really no different to physically stealing something from your local supermarket, and you deserve to get a really nasty virus or even better hacked! have a great day.
 
Absolutely, Theft is theft.

I have to agree that Gimp is free and open source (free) I only use it to a basic level but works for me!

Jon.
 
Feel a bit ambivalent here. Agreed that the original idea was illegal, but have a lot of sympathy with those legit PS users (I'm one, or rather WAS one) who got dumped by Adobe when Win 7 came along. I was running Elements 7 at the time, which had only been out for a year or so but would not work with Win7 and Adobe couldn't be @rsed to do a compatible upgrade. That, to me, is not far removed from theft from the customer, even if the real thieves are Microsoft.
Have to use Gimp now, which is OK-ish.
 

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