For Sale / Wanted section ?

[Losos]

Noel,
Well I suppose one might say I was biased 'cos I could only 'buy' two or three times a year and would probably never post a 'For Sale'
Nevertheless I support your statement above, having a Sale & Want ad. section would almost inevitably lead to recriminations, protetations, and verbal abuse, and you mods would have your time cut out trying to control it.
I really like the friendly and knowledge based help that one gets on this forum, would that some others were the same. Let's keep it that way.

For those that have requested it, why not try your local rag, they can usually get your ad in within a week, the replies will visit you to collect so you can be sure they know what they are getting, and folding money can be exchanged thereby avoiding Paypal and other somewhat dubious methods of payment. O.K. so the readership is not huge but when I was in England I sold lots of stuff this way with never any comebacks.

 

[seaco]

I like the idea of a for sale section, people on here seem a great bunch and I'm sure that they wouldn't sell tools etc. that were not as stated but if this did happen then it surely would be only right that the agreived party should be able to say what they think, it works on ebay it's called feedback?

We all have tools at times that we want to sell or buy and here is just a huge resource that should be tapped into...

I belong to other forums that have for sale sections and have very little problem with it!

Beginners are probably the ones that need to buy tools the most so putting the post amount to high before you can buy or sell may be a bit counter productive...

Just my tuppance worth...

 

[Rob_H]

I definitely support a for sale/wanted section. I for one would use it quite a bit.

 

[RogerM]

I too would favour a "for sale" section, but I suspect that it should be limited to members who have posted over a period of time, and not just a few rapid token posts made to qualify them to sell a heap of junk that they've joined the forum to sell.

 

[Alf]

A dedicated For Sale section is more likely to attract pile-'em-high-posters than not, I'd have thought. The present system works fine - if only people would actually read the rules they're asked to read before posting. :roll: Any uncertainty about whether you're eligible to post a For Sale, you can always ask for the next mod online to PM you via the helpful FAO the next mod online thread I'd have thought.

Cheers, Alf

 

[OLD]

I support a for sale/wanted section .Looking at other forums the 'computer guys' have lots of rules about bumping , immediate despatch ,showing a price and not changing it within 24 hours etc. etc.The 'bikers' require 25 posts or over to be able to offer items for sale and then indicate when sold.
My preference is same as the bikers .Stops it being used as a ebay and you now you are buying from a proper woodworker offering genuine properly described kit.
You should then be able to gather together what you require to further your hobby much faster than having to buy new.

 

[houtslager]

I'm with OLD on this , seems to me a good cut off - 25 posts and an immeadiate post on sale of item /s

 

[gardenshed]

I agree with Alf, the forum has a perfectly good system in place for members to sell the odd item.

I don't see the point in an extra section. You only have to look how many "for sale" items there's been in the last 3 months alone. and the answer speaks for itself.

 

[seaco]

I agree with Alf, the forum has a perfectly good system in place for members to sell the odd item.

I don't see the point in an extra section. You only have to look how many "for sale" items there's been in the last 3 months alone. and the answer speaks for itself.

Ah! but that may be because there isn't a proper place to sell?

 

[DomValente]

Well I can see Alf's et als point of view, there would be a good chance of interlopers using the forum to rid themselves of whatever rubbish,in fact I'm willing to bet on it.

But,on the other hand I recently had to return a lot of misordered hinges to Hafele at a cost of 25% plus postage.

Now I'm certain that many of us who buy in bulk(therefore more cheaply) have in our stores goods sitting there not earning money which could be sold on to members at a good discount.

But on the other hand......oh hell I don't know, I'll sit on the fence and let the mods decide.

 

[dickm]

I would find a for sale/wanted section quite useful, but can see there could be problems. However, there is another site "homeworkshop.org.uk" that seems to operate sales and wants quite happily for the model engineering fraternity. I've both bought and sold stuff on there, and asked for advice, which was very rapidly and expertly given. I've not heard of any disputes arising there.
There is occasionally woodworking stuff on there too, so it's well worth a look.

 

[gardenshed]

I agree with Alf, the forum has a perfectly good system in place for members to sell the odd item.

I don't see the point in an extra section. You only have to look how many "for sale" items there's been in the last 3 months alone. and the answer speaks for itself.

Ah! but that may be because there isn't a proper place to sell?

But there is a proper place. it's in the general woodworking section , where virtually everyone looks in when they log on

 

[seaco]

You know exactly what I mean a proper separate section.... :roll:

 

[Pekka Huhta]

It seems as a "war between the generations" looking at the post count of people :wink:

I'd really love a separate section, as there is a certain step to post to general woodworking for a small item or a missing spare part.

I've kicked up one big phpBB forum and moderating several over here, and I can't see any difference on the actual work in moderating or keeping up the forum if it has one section more or less. Actually I have noted that splitting the discussion to several sections does help. The traffic on "my forum" (Puuvene.net, Finnish woodenboat forum) isn't as big as here, but there are just about the same 2000 members over there as well.

Creating a section takes about two minutes and it's just the same time to remove it. How about giving it a try for a couple of weeks? If it works, OK, let's be glad that we invented something new and useful to the forum. If it's too much trouble, just delete the whole section and that's it.

The minute a new section is opened, I'll post a wanted-message for a good set of bevel edge chisels with round boxwood handles, #80 cabinet scraper, 2-3 V-shaped carving chisels and a splitting cutter for Stanley #45. Not to mention that a #55 would be lovely, but all can't be had in one go

Look, I've already made a shopping list months ago, but had no place to post it in. Or did not dare to disturb the conversation by posting it to the general forum.

Pekka

 

[matt]

Why not just use eBay to sell?

For those wanting to buy... Members could simply alert other forum members that they have items for sale on eBay.

UKW = Discussion forum
eBay = Marketplace

This, I think, serves all parties; including those that want to be able to trust the seller (because they know they're a member of UKW).

One question though (for the mods)... Why no direct links to eBay?

 

[Blister]

It seems as a "war between the generations" looking at the post count of people :wink:

I'd really love a separate section, as there is a certain step to post to general woodworking for a small item or a missing spare part.

I've kicked up one big phpBB forum and moderating several over here, and I can't see any difference on the actual work in moderating or keeping up the forum if it has one section more or less. Actually I have noted that splitting the discussion to several sections does help. The traffic on "my forum" (Puuvene.net, Finnish woodenboat forum) isn't as big as here, but there are just about the same 2000 members over there as well.

Creating a section takes about two minutes and it's just the same time to remove it. How about giving it a try for a couple of weeks? If it works, OK, let's be glad that we invented something new and useful to the forum. If it's too much trouble, just delete the whole section and that's it.

The minute a new section is opened, I'll post a wanted-message for a good set of bevel edge chisels with round boxwood handles, #80 cabinet scraper, 2-3 V-shaped carving chisels and a splitting cutter for Stanley #45. Not to mention that a #55 would be lovely, but all can't be had in one go

Look, I've already made a shopping list months ago, but had no place to post it in. Or did not dare to disturb the conversation by posting it to the general forum.

Pekka

Well said that man

It would be very nice to have this section as we are all in this together , trust between forum members , if you dont buy or sell things then you have no need to view and these posts will not show up in other sections of the forum , sounds good to me but I am new to this forum , quite like the format and help I have received so far , Thanks

 

[Newbie_Neil]

Hi Matt

One question though (for the mods)... Why no direct links to eBay?

Tool sellers, in two words.

Cheers
Neil in succinct mode.

PS Personally, I would stop all eBay links in this forum. My reasoning is that if a member was doing their research and had found something they wanted, it could very easily be lost due to another member being helpful and posting the link and then bids being entered by a number of forum members.

 

[Freetochat]

I don't see a problem with the current practice of putting sale/wanted within the general section. It has worked up until now. No, it is not about generation gaps or anything similar, but simply because I wouldn't want to be faced with pages of new posts from 'ebay resellers'.

 

[seaco]

Why not do as Pekka Huhta suggested and try a section for a few weeks and if you had a problem or it wasn't used, remove it I think enough people here seem to want a separate section for selling...

Matt The reason people don't go straight to ebay to sell is to try and cut out on all the scams and rogue traders about at least here your safer don't you think?

 

[Newbie_Neil]

Why not do as Pekka Huhta suggested and try a section for a few weeks and if you had a problem or it wasn't used, remove it I think enough people here seem to want a separate section for selling...

Noel's already answered that one.

It's been asked many, many times before, sale and want that is, but there's little need for it. It simply wouldn't justify the extra cost (server wise) and the time taken to moderate another forum. Over the past few years For sale or FTAGH posts have been maybe once or twice a month at most and I don't believe a specific forum would encourage additional traffic.

The rules for posting a FS ad in General WW or in another forum is simply to discourage one off members trying to flog something and then contributing little or nothing to the site.

With regard to self posted 'Bay links this is not Loot or someother free ad publication. Of course the exception is when a member wishes to draw attention to an eBay sale purely for "rubber necking" purposes and further discussion.

Cheers
Neil