Festool SCMS Review Part 2 (No Gloats)

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Waka

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Well I've had a really good play with the tool today and taken lots of pic's, I hope I can explain myself clearly.

The first picture shows a hold down clamp, a simple device that attaches to a slot on either the left or right hand side of the blade.
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To insert it all you do is reverse the clamp and lift it out, by turning it into the correct position it locks itself.

It seems to hold the wood down adequately, obvisously ewith long pieces you would have the wings extended.

I was a bit surprized that the saw only came with one of these clamps, I would have thouight for the price there should have been two. I have ordered another one and a costly £34.00, plus I have been promised a discount.

Mind you if I remember rightly I omly got the one clamp with my makita 10 years ago.

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Altering the vertical angle on my makita used to be a real palavar, loosening this, allen key here etc, festool have come up with a much easier system.
The pic show a green selector switch with settings of 0 - 45 degrees, +/-45 degrees, or 47 degrees
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To unlock you just rasie the lever that surrounds the selector switch, its as simple as that.
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Whats even simplier is moving the machine to the desired setting, all you do is turn the knob in the picture either left or right, when your at the desired setting just flip the lock back over the selector switch and away you go.

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I tried this several times and to change setting takes seconds.
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For the horizontal angle is as esay, all all you do is push the lever down , push the inset lever and move left or right.
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Nice easy movement, it just seems to glide. All the main setting have preset locking points, but for unusual ones its very easy to set these and lock the position.

The indicator arrow for the positions is to the side of the lever action, I found this quite useful, although took a little getting used to.
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One of the things thats always bugged me is when I want to do trenchi9ng with a SCMS. A lot have the screw device on the side that you set up and hope it doesn't move while you're trenching, and theres always that little bit of spring movement thats evedent when you've finished.

If you look at the green lever thats point vertical in the picture, this is the device for setting the depth.

First you lower the lever as in the next pic, this will give you a preset depth of cut.
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Should you wish to take the blade up or down then all you do is turn the lever left or right. Theis is very good for fine adjustment. I was also surprized to note that there is no spring once the depth has been set. A definate improvement on other machines.
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There one one or two more features I'd like to mention but I'm haveing trouble with uploadit at the moment, so will post that bit later.

As mentioned in the last post the dust extraction is effective although not a 100%.

Now the big question, is the saw worth the asking price of just under £800.00, someone from Haarlam in the neatherlands question why anybody would want a SCMS, (I used to live near there, buts thats another Story)

In my view a tool is worth what the individual is prepared to pay for it, some may think its cheap given all the refinements, some will say its too expensive. Personally I find that its at the top end of what I would pay for such a tool.

I'm sure if yiou had the chance to get your hands on one and have a play then you may be convinced that its worth it.

Anyone want to come and try it out are more than welcome to flock South and give it a try.

I hope you find this useful.
 
Thanks Waka,
Very interesting.
Agree with your sentiment.
Perhaps in a simpler form. Why buy an Estwing hammer for £30.00 when Draper sell one for £5.00, try it and see.

Looks like a great piece of kit Waka, wish you well using it.

Dom
 
Thanks Waka for a very formative review.

Festool are a top company and without doubt their machines are very well made. They are designed so thoughtfully and I suppose that is why they command top dollar.

Each of us will have our own opinion as to whether they are worth the money or not.

Oh, and by the way, when your fed up with that saw just let me know - I could find a good kind home for it. :wink:

Cheers, Esc.
 
These guys have some good industrial designers. Very cool looking kit.

Wonder, though, why they didn't use an induction motor?

BTW funny that you lived near Haarlem. I did too many years ago, in Hillegom....
 
Newbie_Neil":f3pr21uv said:
Hi Waka

Out of interest, in your no gloat thread, is that an LN on the bandsaw? :lol:

Cheers
Neil

Bog sy
standard paint brush that I use for cippings. I mean what numty would buy an LN brush for a Festool. You guys really need to wear the jacket?
 
iwood":25gnaw1u said:
These guys have some good industrial designers. Very cool looking kit.

Wonder, though, why they didn't use an induction motor?

BTW funny that you lived near Haarlem. I did too many years ago, in Hillegom....

I lived in barerwijk (not sure I've spelt it right) for a couple of years back in the 80's.
 
Hi Waka

OK, I'll be serious now. Thanks you for taking the time to post this review, it is much appreciated.

I am very impressed with the saw.

Thanks
Neil

PS Have a good holiday.
 
Very nice Waka. At least this time I can concentrate on the saw without any hand tool distractions in the background :lol:

Is it worth £800? All you have to ask yourself is, after paying all that money are you happy with it? If the answer is yes, then it certainly is worth it. I paid a right few bob for my Dewalt 718 and I am extremely pleased with its performance and to me it was worth every penny.

I must say though I still wonder why like yours Dewalt never fitted it with an induction motor. It is belt driven and very quite, but an induction motor would have been nice.
I also have the Elektra Beckum KGS 300 which has an induction motor, and up until now, if the Festool is as good as I have heard, has one the best dust extraction systems on the market, whereas the Dewalt must be one of the worst.

Have fun with your new toy.

Cheers

Mike
 
Very nice. Thanks for the review but does it cut wood as well? I can't see a speck of sawdust anywhere! :?

Ike
 
Thanks for the review, Waka - it looks very nice :mrgreen:

Surprised you haven't mentioned what this black plastic thing is for: :wink:
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Cheers,
Neil
 
Fancy scrawling graffiti all over it as well - he's only had it 2 days.
 
Newbie_Neil":3trh016q said:
Have you got one as well? :mrgreen:
I wish! :roll: At the moment my tool-buying budget couldn't even stretch to a spare clamp for it :cry: :lol:. But I have seen the brochure... :whistle:

Cheers,
Neil
 
Neil":1uz37bf9 said:
Thanks for the review, Waka - it looks very nice :mrgreen:

Surprised you haven't mentioned what this black plastic thing is for: :wink:
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Cheers,
Neil

neil thatlittle gadget is for doing angles external and internal. If they are of add degrees you take the angle , place the gadget on the saw bed and move the saw until it matches the angle on the gadget, what will they think of next.
 
In other words its a built-in Nobex Multifix, so you can make yourself feel better about the price by subtracting £30 from it :lol:

Cheers,
Neil
 
Waka

On the mitre scale, on the front left IIRC, there are three markers. The centre one is obviously the mitre angle, but do you know what the others are for? The bloke in the fixings store didn't.

Cheers
Steve
 

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