Festool SCMS Review Part 1

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I thought I'd break this review up into two segments otherwise it will be extremely long. The first part takes in the work station and some of the good things abopt the machine.

The machine itself is very light, it comes in at just under 25kg, the instruction book recommends that the machine is clamped to the table. I have opted to screw it down to the mobile stand that has been modified from when it held the Makita.
This pic shows it screwed to the base.
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I tend to make my mobile bases as cupboard units, you can never have enough storage space. You can see on this pic that there are flaps on the side of the table, I'll talk about them shortly.
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It is my intention to give this saw its own dedicated dust extraction, I did order a Festool mini that will fit in the cupboard, but it hasn't arrived yet, so for demonstration purposes only, I have used my hand tool one.
In the pic you can see that it fits snugly in the lower part of the cabinet.
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In the back of the cabinet I have drilled two holes, one for the extraction hose and the other for the cables. This was the dust extractor will start automatically when the saw is running.
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What I had to here was secure the hose with a tie wrap, this acts to keep it tidy and also to ensure that there is no no kink in the hose. I tested the hose length in all position of the saw just to make sure that I had enough above the tie wrap.
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You'll have noticed on the side of the table a sort of frame hanging on the flap, this is the support for the flap.
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With the flaps inthe horizontal position the mobile base turns into a 7 feet workstation for the SCMS, with the wheels locked iy makes it a very sturdy unit.
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All festool lovers will know that there study the market and come up with some things that other manufacturers haven't thought of. Well this is one of them, we've all had trouble with long pieces of wood and making sure that with have the whole length horizontal the the base of the saw.

This pic shows you how festool have solved this problem, all you need is two festool systainers, these are the exact height of the saw bed, good thinking on there part.
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The last pic show a 2" x 10' piece of maple waiting to be cut.
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Now to answer the question that a few of you have asked, dust extraction, does it really work.

Well I know that wilth my makita it used to fly all over the plave, some would get to the bag, but most of it eventually landed on the workshop floor.

What I can say is that the festool dust extraction does work, I'm not going to say 100%, but let me put it this way, if you see what you are getting now, the festool is 90% better.

I do the concluding bit tomorrow, we'll get into the nitty gritty of the saw itself.

Hope someone out there finds this useful.
 
Phew.......thought that was going to be some sort of gloatfest :roll:
Looking forward to the review of the saw. With Norris planes sat in the background..... :lol:
Cheers
Philly :D
 
Philly":2mn64xlv said:
Phew.......thought that was going to be some sort of gloatfest :roll:
Looking forward to the review of the saw. With Norris planes sat in the background..... :lol:

You mean he has more planes??? Are they in the cupboards with the doors that didn't happen to be open???? :lol: :lol:

Nice review, Waka :wink:

Cheers :wink:

Paul
 
As usual even when you only see a Festool in a glimpse you known without doubt it is a Festool. Also with this one an extremely nice design that it well thought through.

But with any SCMS always the same question pops to mind: "Why buy an expensive SCMS or even one at all" No matter how well built the SCMS its accuracy (especially over time with all those moving parts) will be less than a table saw and cross cutting pieces that are too long or to thick for your table saw can be done on a band or hand saw.

So why buy this SCMS or is it actully that well designed it really over come all problems involved with SCMSs?
 
Another review that makes me long for my old garden workshop.
Lovely bit of kit Waka.
Congratulations, you've drawn another victim onto your evil Festool slope.

Dom
 
Is it called a Kapex because of the budgetary requirements? or the paperwork you have to submit to the other half prior to purchase approval being issued?

I do like the boxy thing being the same height as the saw bed though, it's that level of attention to detail that makes a difference. I'll stop now.

Cheers Mike
 
On Monday I went to my local fixings supplier for some machine screws. "How's the furniture?" he asked. He always remember me and seems genuinely interested. "Have you seen the new Festool saw? We've got one round the back, come on through".

I was pretty impressed, although I hadn't realized the box-height thing. This one had all the bells and whistles - table, long fences L&R etc, and comes in at over £1200 +VAT. I am a Festool fan, but even I would balk at that!

But nice, very, very nice indeed. He wouldn't let me use it though, it was already sold.

Cheers
Steve
 
Thanks Waka

Can't wait for part two although my minds made up....

I want one NOW :D

Andy
 
Gloatious maximus!!! Philly is no longer the king :wink: :lol:

Nice review Waka, very interesting
 
Great review, i am waiting for mine from suppliers, still none in stock.

Can't wait to hear your thoughts regarding the accuracy and whether it is good out of the box, or did it need adjusting. How have you checked accuracy?

Thanks again for taking the time to review, just bursting to get mine ! :lol:
 
tnimble,

But with any SCMS always the same question pops to mind: "Why buy an expensive SCMS or even one at all" No matter how well built the SCMS its accuracy (especially over time with all those moving parts) will be less than a table saw and cross cutting pieces that are too long or to thick for your table saw can be done on a band or hand saw.

So why buy this SCMS or is it actully that well designed it really over come all problems involved with SCMSs?

My SCMS is just as accurate as my table saw and more accurate then my band saw, and it is certainly more accurate at cutting mitres then I could by hand. It also cuts 6" thick where my table saw only cuts 4". Thats why I got mine.

Waka, very nice.

Cheers

Mike
 
Tony":35tni8rc said:
Gloatious maximus!!! Philly is no longer the king :wink: :lol:

Nice review Waka, very interesting
Damn right - the king is dead, long live the king :lol:
All yours Waka,
Philly :D
 
Philly":19cbnt0b said:
Tony":19cbnt0b said:
Gloatious maximus!!! Philly is no longer the king :wink: :lol:

Nice review Waka, very interesting
Damn right - the king is dead, long live the king :lol:
All yours Waka,
Philly :D

Oh your so kind, but I don't want to take it away from you Philly, I know you have something up your sleve.

Just an observation here, you seem awfully quite since Mrs Philly wouldn't allow you to go to Woodex. I hope your getting your bownie points for the Nottingham bash?
 
Mike.C":31bs50eu said:
tnimble,

But with any SCMS always the same question pops to mind: "Why buy an expensive SCMS or even one at all" No matter how well built the SCMS its accuracy (especially over time with all those moving parts) will be less than a table saw and cross cutting pieces that are too long or to thick for your table saw can be done on a band or hand saw.

So why buy this SCMS or is it actully that well designed it really over come all problems involved with SCMSs?

My SCMS is just as accurate as my table saw and more accurate.
Thats very debatable. Although when cutting with a mitre gauge on the table saw instead of using a mitre jig any descent SCMS would be ewual or better esp. in the begining.

... then my band saw, and it is certainly more accurate at cutting mitres then I could by hand. It also cuts 6" thick where my table saw only cuts 4". Thats why I got mine.
No doubt about that. But for more or less rough cutting to length on a not so expensive SCMS would do that too.

So my only reservation I have with SCMS is if the real expensive ones are really worth their money.

b.t.w. I also own one but hardly use it because of either an other machine does a better job or the wood is not so long / thick I take the effort of getting it out of the cupboard and setting it up.


But this aside I recon this Fesstool (al always) is Fescool! And the way it set on that cabinet is superb!
 
Waka

You are a tease. :lol: :lol:

Some might say that posting the review in two parts just enhances the gloat, but I couldn't possibly comment. :wink:

Thank you for part one, it is much appreciated.

Cheers
Neil
 

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