Dust extractor recomendations

[noddy67]

Further to a previous post I am looking for advice on a dsut extractor to use with a new fixed 150mm ducting system in the UK. It will need to remove dust/chippings from all the usual home shop machines over a maximum ducting run of about 9 metres. Unsurprisingly cost is a key factor. Thanks in advance for any help.

 

[Roy Clarke]

Thisis the best around, and right for your duct size. You could build the cyclone yourself as I am doing to reduce the cost. That means it really costs more than buying it because you take too long doing it, but who cares?

 

[ProShop]

Hi Noddy67

Do you know the extraction rating of the machines you have, as this will determine the size of extractor needed. Along with how many bends, Y connectors, (try to avoid T connectors) blast gates etc you have.

You mention home shop machines, are we talking hobby, light industrial ?. Most of the hobby & quite a lot of light ind extractors use a 4" outlet as standard. to utilize the best from your 150mm plumbing you'll need to find a extractor that comes with that size outlet but they usually have the price tag to match imho.

 

[Escudo]

Say Noddy take a look at the camvac site.

I have a small camvac machine which is plumbed into my shed with 2.5" pipes. It works very well.

The machine is in a cupboard outside which saves space and dramatically reduces noise level. I would highly recommend that approach which ever machine you choose.

Camvac are good solid machines.

Esc.

 

[Escudo]

my god that picture of me (which philly took) looks awful.

I will have to change it for something better.

:shock:

 

[nickson71]

I'm going to be ordering a camvac in the next few day too

 

[noddy67]

Thanks guys. Will check out the camvac site today. Has anyone imported one of the clearview cyclones into the UK and if so how did they get on. I see from previous posts a number of people made their own...a tad ambitious for me in terms of ability and time (have 3 kids) but I would be interested in any feedback on that fronrt too.

 

[mpooley]

Thisis the best around, and right for your duct size. You could build the cyclone yourself as I am doing to reduce the cost. That means it really costs more than buying it because you take too long doing it, but who cares?

Hi all
I have just contacted the clearvue cyclone people and have been quoted $1645 for the Cyclone excluding the motor but including postage

This works out about £850.00 plus the price of a motor.
Its a bit on the dear side but i'm very tempted - what do you think?

Mike

 

[nickson71]

If you'r importing you may get hit with customs duty which will make it a lot more expensive

not much help but I thought you may need to factor it into your calculations

 

[mpooley]

If you'r importing you may get hit with customs duty which will make it a lot more expensive

not much help but I thought you may need to factor it into your calculations

Ah Yes! I'd forgotten about that :shock: thanks

Maybe Richard will share his plans with me :lol:

 

[mpooley]

I Meant Roy not Richard

Maybe ROY will share his plans with me :lol:

 

[davy_owen_88]

For single phase this is the extractor with the highest airflow I could find (vital for large ducting): ADE4000 It comes with a 180mm inlet so you would need to reduce it down but I think its very reasonable for what you get.

If you replace the top bags with these filter cartridges then you will increase the airflow even more and filter down to 0.5 microns at the same time.

Fit a cyclone before it or a bin with something like this and you should be sorted.

If you haven't read through the Bill Pentz website then have a look, its a good read.

Davy

 

[nickson71]

the Pentz web site is good but it may take a while to digest the info

I was going to build one of these but due to a tiny 2.83 x 2.23M workshop/shed I'm going down the camvac route

I do remeber one guy that got a cyclone to be fabricated at professional metal workshop...... unfortunately I can't remember his name

 

[noddy67]

Thanks guys.
Mike I also was just in touch with ClearVue and was quoted a similar amount. It seems an awful lot, particularly the postage. I jokingly suggested that we put 10 in a container, ship them across the atlantic and then split them up over here. I wonder whether there would be that much interest for them to make it worth the trouble. I suppose we could always fill the rest of the container with cherry/maple and walnut and see how we go.....

 

[nickson71]

I was just looking back through the old posts using the search function and the guy I mentioned was running a poll several months back and he was quoted at £395 per cyclone on a run 10 builds

this was just for the cyclonemade out of 18 gauge steel but no impellor etc

I guess that the price would go up for a single build but I would be cheaper than getting it shipped from the States..... and you can use the plans of the Pentz web site

 

[RogerS]

I have the mini-cyclone and it works very well. I had a slight problem with my dust container as shown here.

The Mini Cyclone does what it says on the can. I use it for my table saw, large bandsaw, spindle moulder, thicknesser and planer...just wheel into place. I use two 58mm dia pipes joined together and the only criticism I have of my set-up (and nothing whatsoever to do with the Clearvue cyclone) is that I may not have enough suck from my earlex vacuum cleaner as I get the sense that the air is a little lazy at times. Neither the mitre saw nor the bandsaw have particularly good dust extraction facilities....and I suspect that even with a larger 'sucker' that the improvements might be marginal without a radical redesign at the point of extraction. However, it does suck the majority of the stuff pretty effectively. Certainly the filter does not get clogged up at all in the Earlex.

I know that Barry had one minor concern and that was that the exit hole was quite small and he found that long bits of ply shavings tended to block it up. That's only happened to me twice since I bought the unit and it's very easy to unblock as you just unplug the pipe frm the top and stick a bit of wood down to clerar the blockage.

I had to empty my dust container for the first time recently and there is a design flaw in my container, namely that it's too big to fit a black bin liner over. So I ended up taking it outside and using a dustpan transferring the stuff into the bin liner. Not very clever.

 

[mpooley]

I have spent ages looking through the bill Pentz site just got more and more confused TOO much information for my old brain.
I do believe that the cyclone is the way to go - i just dont want to spend ages sorting out a design and making it.

So if i had a set of plans i might try making it but it would have been nice just to buy one ready to go!

I'll have a look at the axminster one and see if i can get a plan for a cyclone to put in the system.
If any one has any more ideas i'm sure their are plenty of people here interested

Mike

 

[AndyBoyd]

Look at these prices: :shock: :shock:


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Gee - I might even ask if they are prepare to ship one here !

Links tidied to stop side ways scrolling DaveL

 

[mpooley]

HEY! They Look good don't they!

I might do that myself !

Ta

 

[noddy67]

Well if they can ship them here for a reasonable price I think this is the way to go!