Door Stops

[Mrs C]

We have a deep door frame that needs a thick door stop to look right. Can someone tell me the correct way to join the stop to the door jamb and head? Is there a way without using screws/nails as the frame wont be painted.

Someone has suggested a rebate,however, i am not sure if we were talking at cross purposes or they meant to put the stop into a channel in the jamb.

Thanks

 

[Steve1066]

Traditionally You would pin and glue it. Small gauged pin a little bit of putty over the pin head it does work well and really do just disappear into the finish even if it's a clear finish.
Or your other option is to cut some spreaders to hold the stop while the glue goes off I would recommend using a PU glue 5 or 15 minute stuff , shut the door and put a 1mm packer between the door and the stop on the hinge side.
Open the when it's all setup or you might stick it shut.
Hope that helps

 

[Jake]

If the door frame hasn't been made yet then rebating the frame is the neatest way (ie creating the shape of the stop from jamb/head) and traditional for highest class work.

If the frame has already been made/installed and the stops have to be planted on as separate pieces of timber then the trad way would be to screw and plug. As long as the plugs are well matched up grainwise this is quite effective at hiding the screwholes.

You could also probably get away with gluing them on with a good adhesive if you get the cramping right, but I would add loads of airnailer pins too - the holes the 21g ones leave are pretty much invisible after filling with a matching wood filler and even though they are tiny enough of them skew-nailed in will add a lot of strength which slammed doors might call on.

Best to mill them into the frame if they are new and not being painted though.

 

[RobinBHM]

Is this an external door frame or are you meaning an internal door lining that is extra wide as its covering a thick wall (very common with an extension as the original wall becomes internal)?

If a liner with stops, say in a natural finish like oak, then glue and pin them on, covering the pin holes with wax or brummer. You can either make the stops the usual 35mm to 40mm wide, or you could make the stop much wider so it finishes flush to the back of the liner and can be covered by architrave.

If the liner isnt fitted yet, then the stops could be screwed on from the back. That introduces some complications though.

If it is a door frame you are talking about, then the frame can be constructed as a rebated frame or have loose stops as above.

 

[Mrs C]

Many thanks, not quite sure why it hadnt dawned on me to just to screw them in fron the other side!

P.s. Door is external

 

[Steve1066]

Traditionally You would pin and glue it. Small gauged pin a little bit of putty over the pin head it does work well and really do just disappear into the finish even if it's a clear finish.
Or your other option is to cut some spreaders to hold the stop while the glue goes off I would recommend using a PU glue 5 or 15 minute stuff , shut the door and put a 1mm packer between the door and the stop on the hinge side.
Open the when it's all setup or you might stick it shut.
Hope that helps

For get what I side above I thought you were on about an internal door lining with extra wide stops.
If you are making a external frame from scratch there is no need for mechanical fixing you can just glue and clamp and leave to set. I would make the rebat 1mm wider than the door depending on the timber that you're using to allow for movement and stop it getting but bound on the hinge side.