Disston saw - A little advice on restoring please

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TonyW

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After struggling to cut some wood recently (Best quality Banana Pine from Bendy and Quirky :D ) with an old tenon saw (no pictures you will be pleased to note - might offend those with a delicate disposition) I came to the following conclusions:

1. My sawing technique not good, I think I am impatient and try too hard forcing the saw into the work resulting in cuts that are not straight and to the line.

2. The saw is poor i.e. I think that it was a fairly cheap and nasty with a plastic handle and it is just not sharp.

3. Buy a better saw and practice cutting to the line - or even the mystical sawing to the half line!

So with this in mind started to look around for a reasonable saw. Reading the forum posts many saws quoted as excellent LN, Adria, Wenzloff etc. etc. I am sure they are worth the money but decided that I would try and find a good second hand one at a reasonable price. Found some good comments on Disston and others so the hunt started

I found this Disston on ebay

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I did a little research on the net via the Disstonian institute. If I am correct I believe this is an example of a Disston No 4 Back Saw. Blade length 12" 14TPI. Seems that many of these were made so unlikely to have a high value. I picked this up for £25 which I felt ok - alternatives would have been to pay at least three times more for a new quality saw or buy a B&Q hardpoint. I think/hope I have made the right decision
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Trying to find out approximate age the website states these saws were produced without stamps sometime in the 1940's. So I assume that this saw probably manufactured in the 40's - anyone able to give a better estimate?

I would like to clean this up (its going to be a keeper and user) and am considering the best ways to do this. As this is not (I believe!) a priceless antique plus the fact that the paint splashes, loss of lacquer on the handle and the dirt on the blade offend me I am looking for some suggestions how to start
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I could not wait so tried the saw on the same Banana Pine - much better than my old saw - but I think could be improved even further.

So a few questions

Starting with the handle I am unsure of the finish coating is it varnish, lacquer or shellac? What is the best way to remove and refinish?

The brass bits I intend to polish

The blade looks ok without any signs of rust I want to give it a clean up and was thinking that a gentle way may be to use Autosol metal cleaner any other suggestions.

Now for the most important part sharpening!! I have read quite a lot about DIY saw sharpening and while in principle it looks to be achievable by an amateur like me I am reluctant to try (at least for the time being on this particular saw). I think I may give it a try with my old saws first. Can anyone recommend a Saw Doctor in the North West ideally Cheshire, Lancashire or Merseyside.

Cheers :)
Tony
 
Hi Tony,

this is a nice one. 8)

Disston is well known for their handsaws but not their backsaws. I own myself 3 Disstons and can tell that better backsaws are made by Tyzack and other british makers.

I would get rid of the laquer with a scraper followed by some 220 grit sand paper an BLO. I don't like shellac on my handels.

You may polish the nuts and the medaillon, little more bling.

For the blade use some steelwool 000 or sand paper >600g

As the teeth of your saw don't look irregular, you can sharpen yourself - only one half stroke per tooth. :lol:

Cheers pedder
 
When I was faced with the same challenge, I found the detailed accounts on the old tools forum useful - have a look at http://www.oldtoolsshop.com/storageBin/index.asp and find the articles by Bob Sturgeon.

And the filing thing isn't really that hard - you need to follow the directions with a saw and file in sight, and think about it logically, but if you don't get brilliant results, you can always have another go!
 
pedder
Thanks for the info. Like you I do not like lacquer or shellac on my tool handles. So will get rid of it and probably finish with BLO as suggested. Definitely needs a polish for more bling :).
Still a little nervous of taking file to saw :lol:

AndyT
Thanks for the link will have a good study of the articles.

Cheers :)
Tony
 
Hi Paul
Just watched the link you posted. Really good to see the techniques actually demonstrated. Looks like I will have to equip myself with some files, a saw set, a device for holding saws and a damn big magnifier :)

Then let myself loose initially on a saw that may have been relegated to the scrap heap

Thanks

Cheers :)
Tony

EDIT: Now I am a bit :oops: Have found a number of articles here on the forum e.g. Bob Smalser - New Life for an Old Saw, Sorby & Disston thread and Hand Saw sharpening thread started by MikeC & I am sure there is more! For some reason my attempted searches did not turn up these articles originally - so apologies to all that are getting fed up of answering the same old questions
 
TonyW":5it5phh3 said:
pedder
Still a little nervous of taking file to saw
Tony

Tony, you can take a cheap gents saw, they are available for 4€ over here, for training before touch the disston. After a little training your gonna see, that these cheapos are good users, too. :roll:

Cheers pedder
 
Pedder
Thanks for that. I do intend to use a cheapo saw - I have a couple to practice on :D . Seems from reading other comments like yours cheapos can be good users too.

I have now cleaned up the Disston (not too much!) got rid of the shellac/lacquer and coated with BLO, polished the brass bits and lightly cleaned the blade with 600 w&d. Going to apply a little paste wax to the handle later. Looks and feels a lot nicer to me now.

Cheers :)
Tony
 

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