dankaert spindle moulder restoration

[wallace]

Its been a while since I did a restoration so I have been itching to do this little spindle moulder. This is one of the company's early example of spindle moulder.

Before

After

The bearings dropped to bits as I was getting it out, I priced it and it will be £107 to replace the big one :shock:
Once the bearings were out I found this at the bottom, I've never seen this before , any ideas?

 

[ndbrown]

This is one massively constructed moulder, no surprise these machines last so well! I have not seen this feature before in the bearing housing, but hopefully someone on the forum will have. I also really enjoy these machine rebuilds, maybe we need a separate area for machine information! I think one of the Mods has made a fair point that maintenance of this type of thing would be time consuming, so maybe it's not practical.

Watching this with interest and it's nice to see another machine rescued from the scrap man!

Nigel

 

[wallace]

A little more progress, took the height adjustment to bits

The handwheel is cast steel, I prefer them when their aluminium. They clean and polish up better.

This bit bolts to the carriage that holds the spindle

I gave the top a quick shave and then went over with a brass rotary brush in the drill

 

[riclepp]

Hi Wallice

I really enjoy reading your restoration WIP's. You do some fantastic work and am looking forward to this WIP.

Cheers

 

[wallace]

The table on this can be raised

I spent a bit time sanding this cast brass piece before giveing it a good buffing

I then cleaned and wire wheeled the sides

I didn't take eveything back to bare cast, I just filled with bodge and sanded

The castings are just about ready for a coat of zinc primer
Mark

 

[wallace]

More progress

Someone had took a hammer at this bit and mushroomed the end

So I put it on the lathe and made it round again

Mark

 

[Peter Sefton]

This takes me back; I restored a Dankaert saw bench in my first commercial workshop back in the late 80s. It was a very heavy and well-engineered piece of kit just like yours. If you have ever wondered why the old guys refer to horseshoe guards on spindles you have your answer in the first photo above.
Good luck with your restoration; I am following with interest and fond memories.
Peter

 

[wallace]

Thanks Peter, more progress I gave evrything 6 coats of quick drying enamel

 

[Andy RV]

Looks good! What type of belt is used on the arbor pulley? It looks like it's just got a small vee belt on it? Or does it use a larger flat belt?

 

[wallace]

Hi Andy, it came with a thin pulley belt, I was tempted to use a flat type belt but I want to keep costs down because I'm not going to keep the machine once finished, and I was a bit dissapointed that the bearings need renewing. So theres £150
Mark

 

[wallace]

I have started to put things back together

 

[andersonec]

That is just fabulous, I liken people like this to surgeons, so much skill in your hands. I once came across a site in the USA of some sort of association which specialised in rebuilding old woodworking machinery, had links with engineering companies and guys would travel long distances to help and if my memory served me well, there was money available (don't quote me though)

Andy

 

[wallace]

Thanks Andy, I've always enjoyed taking things to bits. I used to get wrong as a child for dismantling my toys. :lol:

 

[wallace]

Quite a bit of progress recently, I painted the the some bits in black enamel for a bit of contrast

I replaced the bearings with new ones and then remounted the spindle

I have replaced the 3 phase motor with a single one. I am not keeping this so I thought it might be easier to sell.

I just need to sort out a switch and then its finished

Mark

 

[dickm]

Beautiful restoration; wonderful to have the patience to do things to that standard.
Only slight worry is whether that vee belt will have enough grip on the flat surface to transmit the power when it's in use? Though somewhere I've read that flat belts work best when there's a longer length between centres than is the case on your m/c.
Might a poly-V used "inside out" with an appropriate pulley on the motor be a potential and economic answer?

 

[wallace]

Thanks ****, I have yet to try it to see how it cuts but I suppose if there is slippage. There is room for another two belts on the pulley.
Mark

 

[Andy RV]

Looks good Mark, where are planning to sell it? Ebay?
It will be interesting to see how it copes with just the single belt. If you do find it slips flat belting is available from stationary engine parts suppliers on ebay http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Stationary...elt-Pulleys-Belting-/_i.html?_fsub=1317792018 for the amount you need it wouldn't cost much and might be worth fitting it just to do a 'proper job'

 

[Tony Spear]

So what did the mystery part turn out to be -looks a bit like a plain white metal shell bearing, but if so whyt the whacking great ball race in addition?

Once the bearings were out I found this at the bottom, I've never seen this before , any ideas?

 

[dickm]

Just a wild guess, but could that ?white metal? bit be a primitive grease seal? It's just that some early Villiers 2-strokes used an arrangement like that for the crankshaft "seals". The inverted commas refer to the fact that they didn't seal for very long, and 2-strokes need good crankcase compression

 

[wallace]

I'm not too sure what the white metal purpose was when I put everything back together the only bit of it that fit was the top where the slots are. This needed to be tapped on the shaft. then the rest didn't touch. I just give it a good greasing fitted the big 'expensive' bearing and stuck it in. One thing which was wierd at the top and bottom of the casting there were groves to house what I thought was some kind of felt but when I took it out it was made of animal hair maybe horse twined together acting as a O ring. I just reversed it and put it back in. I had alittle go at cutting some wood and it worked pretty good. I put this cutter head on which only had one cutter doing the work. The one on the right. There was no slippage

Andy I think I'll put it up for sale on here and then if theirs no interest it will get its chance on ebay
**** maybe your right about a seal. So are you an engine man with the mention of villiers. I have a nice little 4 stroke villiers burried under my bench I also have a nice early lister D in bits stored away in boxes.
Mark