Cover photo of this month's Woodturning - Discuss

[Richard Findley]

Hi all,

I'm curious how other people feel about this. For those that haven't seen it the cover shows a Skew chisel being used to slice a thin slither off of some end grain on a spindle held in a chuck. No problem there. Where I (think) I have an issue is that to have the headlines/text in the position they want it they have reversed the image so it shows the chuck on the right hand side.

Now, I'm not a pedantic sort and I understand the need for artstic liscence sometimes but showing something that is just clearly the wrong way round, and in a specialist magazine as well, seems to be pushing it a bit far.

Just wondered if anyone else has any thoughts on this??

Please discuss....

Cheers

Richard

 

[tekno.mage]

I'm with you on this one, Richard. I don't think artistic license should go so far as to flip a photo to make it fit with the headline on the cover of a supposedly technical magazine. It could be confusing for beginners or even suggest that "left-handed" lathes were easily available!

This is not the first time I've seen such things - there are some photos in turning books I've seen that were obviosuly flipped - in those cases I wondered if the printers had got the negative the wrong way round andt he proof-readers hadn't noticed!

tekno.mage

 

[gerrybhoy70]

While I'm still very much a novice turner, I also agree that this is just wrong.

How can they expect to give a fair visual impression when it's a*se for elbow?

That would just confuse the hell outta me, and I'm waiting for the mag to drop through my door anyday now.......... ](*,)

This is aimed at whoever decided to allow the print to be published in that manner - :tool:

Gerry

 

[cambournepete]

Yup, it's wrong.
Odd thing is I hadn't even noticed until I read this thread, but I knew something was odd about the picture...

 

[wizer]

Not seen it. But seems more than a bit silly that they did this for the cover shot. This has come up on here before last year where they did on an article about a guy in America. It was utterly confusing when you first looked at it and you had to stare at it for a long while before you worked out what was going on. This is a woodturning magazine, I really see no need for them to do this.

 

[Turn It In]

Hi Richard,
I looked twice at the photograph and realised it did not ring true but if you check over back issuses it happens quite often with Woodturning Mag and there are cases where the same picture is printed correctly in the article.
Very confusing for the novice.
Regards
Ian

 

[wizer]

I have a feeling the pages are laid out by non-turners who probably don't realised the importance of having the machine on the right side.

 

[Bodrighy]

I suspect Wizer has the answer. Proof readers in the publishing section who aren't turners wouldn't necessarily notice the problem. I haven't got the magazine for a while, is Mark Baker sill the editor? I would have thought that he would notice this at least.

pete

 

[CHJ]

I have a feeling the pages are laid out by non-turners who probably don't realised the importance of having the machine on the right side.

Isn't that what copy editors are for?

It happens quite a lot in that Mag. as do wrong images to illustrate the text, often on beginners how to's as well.

I can see what happens, the person laying out the pages justs copies and pasts an image as a place holder but forgets to go back and change the image file name.

Take a look at Page 7 (no it is not marked as the number would spoil the image !!? its the one before page 8 and two after page 5. :lol: )

Kick Back explanation help for beginners. Fig3a and Fig3b

 

[Gitface]

I have to agree with Wizer, the pages will have been laid out by the art department. This is a common practise in all publishing both for books, magazines and posters etc.

If a non-turner looked at it the right way they would probably think that there is somthing wrong with the layout but not know what that was as the flow the eyes follows would not cover the whole page.

In essence the art department want you to look around the cover/poster and will guide you eyes round.

I must admit I've done this quite a bit when design posters for clients/work to make the whole design work.

Mark..............

 

[Nick Arnull]

Hi Guys,
I felt I should comment on this thread. Cover photos often are mirrored/reversed to allow the text required to fit around the cover and be more visually attractive and balanced. the cover for issue 205 is also reversed and is stated on the index page.

Many lathes today are fitted with reversing switches this allows the turner to work from the rear of the lathe with the timber coming toward them as is normal operation. When using reverse rotation it is critical to lock the chuck to the spindle.

I do feel that if you have any concerns with this matter they should be posted on the woodworkersinstitute Forum and not here as the comments can be answered directly by Mark Baker the Editor or other GMC staff.
Nick Arnull.

 

[mark sanger]

Hi all

From time to time on publications the covers are flipped for graphic purposes and is generally acknowledge.

I work closely with Mark Baker and can make you aware that this work was turned outboard on the Maxi2 hence the reason it looks the other way around. This should perhaps have been clarified.

There are of course from time to time errors in magazines. I have even seen them in magazines that have a readership of around 2 million a month so it happens.

But the best way to clarify and to enquire is to go to the source direct so that the issues can be looked at, address and altered for future issues.

 

[loz]

Ivé emailed Tegan with a link to this thread.

L

 

[kasandrich]

When I saw that picture I knew something was wrong but I couldn't put my finger on it.

However Marks explanation that it was turned outboard explains it.

 

[dannykaye]

are there any left handed lathes?

 

[mark sanger]

are there any left handed lathes?

no, but you can use the outboard if you are predominantly left handed.

I had a student the other day that was totally left handed, but he found not difficulty turning right handed as he had never turned before.

I turn left handed a lot of the time. I do not bend my body around to get to the base of a form I just change to left handed method when I need to. It is not difficult to do and you can get it off pat with only a short time of practice.

 

[George Foweraker]

What a fuss about nothing.

Regards George

 

[Walter Hall]

I learned some of my my first bowl turning techniques from Peter Child's excellent book "The Craftsman Woodturner". Chapters four and five of this book begin by illustrating the techniques of bowl turning using a lathe with an outboard mounted bowl blank. Seeing tool use illustrated in this way did not prevent me from applying the techniques in reverse to my own lathe, which did not have an outboard facility.

 

[johnny.t.]

What a fuss about nothing.

Couldn't agree more :lol:

I'm off to make some more shavings fly 8)

 

[Richard Findley]

What a fuss about nothing.

Regards George

Thanks for your well considered comment George :roll: , you will notice the title of the thread says "Discuss", and this is an open discussion forum after all!!! I simply wondered what others thought of it, that's all.

As for being turned out-board, I can see this with certain pictures but this example is spindle turning in an article by Mick O'Donnell, not Mark Baker.

I would add that I'm not really criticising the magazine as such, I know that a lot of hard work goes in to it, but I thought this may have been pushing the bounds of reallity a little and wondered what others thought.

My Mrs says I'm getting grumpy-er as I get older (and I'm 30 in a couple of weeks :shock: :wink: ) I wondered if this was a symptom of this.....

Cheers

Richard