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[Rickyegrant]

Im new to the wood working world, if i want to machine a piece of rough timber into a piece square and to particular diamensions. Do i need to use a planer / thicknesser ( ive just bought a band saw) if so whats the best at moment for around £200 i keep seeing the sip 01497 for about £150 has anyone used one or am i wasting my time with it.

 

[DaveL]

Ricky,

Here is a post I did ages ago for Thomas on converting waney edge boards into squared timber, similar to what your asking about.

I don't know what the SIP machine is like, could you post a link to one and then maybe someone can comment.

 

[Anonymous]

Ricky

Be wary of very cheap planer/thicknessers. At the £150 mark, you are likely to be dissapointed. I purchased a nutool planer for £130 early on and gave it away soon after as it was totally inadequate.

I now use the SIP 10" planer/thicknesser and it is very impressive and cost me around £390.

 

[Mike.C]

Hi Ricky, Welcome to the forum.

Tony,


Be wary of very cheap planer/thicknessers. At the £150 mark, you are likely to be dissapointed.

I agree with Tony, you are sure to be disappointed with a planer/thicknesser for that price. But if you do really want one you can get one here for £130

If you search the forum, you will see that like Tony a lot of members are pleased with their various SIP machines, but I am sure that you won't find many user's either on or off the forum who is satisfied with the above machine.

When I first stepped on the slippery slope of woodworking machines and tools, I wanted to get everything at once and because of it I made huge costly mistakes.
So IMHO you would be better off waiting a bit longer until you can afford something like Tony's. At £390 your half way there already.

Good luck and let us know when you do buy one.

Cheers

Mike

 

[Rickyegrant]

Hi thanks for all your advice i suppose i had better wait cheers

 

[Steve Maskery]

Ricky
If you are on a tight budget you will get a better machine by buying second-hand. The downside is that you have no guarantee etc. But if you know what you are looking at, or have a mate who does, you'll get more bang for your buck, to borrow a phrase from over the pond.

I bought a S/H RAS once and it served me well for many years, and I rather wish I'd bought more of my machines S/H.

 

[Mike.C]

Steve,

If you are on a tight budget you will get a better machine by buying second-hand. The downside is that you have no guarantee etc. But if you know what you are looking at, or have a mate who does, you'll get more bang for your buck, to borrow a phrase from over the pond.

Yes, Steve's option is another excellent idea, which could give you a much better p/t for a decent price.
I maybe wrong but I think Tony got himself a second hand Wadkin table saw, which if I remember rightly he is pleased with.

Of course going down this road may mean that you can get yourself a cast iron model.
Whether you will get one for £200 is another question (try google), but again if you save a bit more you could get a very nice machine which would last you for years.

Good luck with your search.

Mike

 

[DaveL]

I maybe wrong but I think Tony got himself a second hand Wadkin table saw, which if I remember rightly he is pleased with.

Mike,

You are wrong but then right. :x :roll:

I have the second hand Wadkin that I am very pleased with, Tony has a Kitty, which he is very pleased with.

 

[RogerS]

Ricky

If you can stretch that little bit more then I can recommend the Dewalt P/T here

 

[Scrit]

I maybe wrong but I think Tony got himself a second hand Wadkin table saw, which if I remember rightly he is pleased with.

Of course going down this road may mean that you can get yourself a cast iron model. Whether you will get one for £200 is another question (try google).....

I'm afraid that the answer to that one (£200 for a cast-iron p/t) is probably dream on, at least if you are thinking Wadkin. What you might get at that price is an all cast-iron behemoth weighing 3/4tonne or more and with a couple of motors that Noah brought over with the Ark hanging off the side and which not only requires a Hiab wagon to deliver it but will occupy your entire garage less about 6inches all round........ in other words the sort of machine which is so old and big that even the trade won't touch these days. For a cast-iron table p/t a more realistic s/hand budget might be £400 and upwards, and if your heart is set on a Wadkin their only small machine, the BAO/S 12 x9in p/t would be hard to find, even on eBay, at much under £650. Oh, and don't forget to budget an extra £130 or thereabouts if it's a three phase machine and you need to convert it to single-phase.

The problem with planer/thicknessers is that they are pretty much particular to the woodworking trades, unlike saw benches which were common to many other trades such as plastics, sheet metalworking (aluminium), plywood trades, etc. who wouldn't ever use a p/t, ergo the number of available secondhand machines is considerably lower (and the price consequently higher). The other point is that there was a preference for separate planers and thicknessers in trade shops certainly until the 1980s, not to mention a definite need for p/ts to be a tad larger (20 x9in and 24 x 9in machines are not uncommon). But that doesn't mean that secondhand cast iron table machines don't exist. Look for Whitehead, Startrite/Robland or Sedgwick as well as Wadkin and you may be lucky and find a good machine at a good price. Then all you have to do is find some way to lug a 250kg plus machine home - in one piece because they normally don't dismantle.

Good hunting!

Scrit

 

[Mike.C]

Dave,

Mike,

You are wrong but then right.

I have the second hand Wadkin that I am very pleased with, Tony has a Kitty, which he is very pleased with.

Ah yes I remember now. Well your both moderators, woodworkers, and male so I was close :lol:

Cheers

Mike

 

[Pecker]

Our late friend Trevor's wife is selling his dewalt p/t for £250. I would guess by coments from others who knew him, this machine would have been looked after. Might be worth contacting Lesley... https://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/view ... hp?t=12071

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