Can a Record 52 vice be repaired?

[SlowSteve]

Hello all,

I have a Record 52 vice (52, as opposed to 52 1/2 as far as I can see ) where the quick release has become very loose - i.e it has a feature when, if the vice is over-tightened, it releases itself, and not the release is very slack and will release with very little pressure applied to the working piece in the vice.

I haven't been able to work out if this is an issue with the half nuts (which I can fix I think ) or the spring - harder. The threads themselves look in good condition and are true to a thread gauge all the way through.

Has anyone seen anything like this, or have any idea's on what I could do? I have searched t'internet and haven't seen much discussion of this.

Steve

 

[flh801978]

Tension the spring more that should do it

 

[bugbear]

Hello all,

I have a Record 52 vice (52, as opposed to 52 1/2 as far as I can see ) where the quick release has become very loose - i.e it has a feature when, if the vice is over-tightened, it releases itself, and not the release is very slack and will release with very little pressure applied to the working piece in the vice.

I haven't been able to work out if this is an issue with the half nuts (which I can fix I think ) or the spring - harder. The threads themselves look in good condition and are true to a thread gauge all the way through.

Has anyone seen anything like this, or have any idea's on what I could do? I have searched t'internet and haven't seen much discussion of this.

Steve

It's easy to test if the screw thread is worn (which is sadly common). It is normal for there to be most wear
on the screw when the vice is holding nothing (or at most 1/2" item). So test this size for slipping.

Then test with a 6" piece of wood. If the vise still slips, it ain't the screw. It is (nearly...)
inconceivable that anyone would manage to wear the whole length of the screw.
Could be the half nut, could be the spring.

But if the vise doesn't slip at 6", it's the screw.

BugBear

 

[wizard]

Spring tension or the flat rod may be twisted have come across that in the past, it should tighten without slipping at all.

 

[Jacob]

Hello all,

I have a Record 52 vice (52, as opposed to 52 1/2 as far as I can see ) where the quick release has become very loose - i.e it has a feature when, if the vice is over-tightened, it releases itself, and not the release is very slack and will release with very little pressure applied to the working piece in the vice.

I haven't been able to work out if this is an issue with the half nuts (which I can fix I think ) or the spring - harder. The threads themselves look in good condition and are true to a thread gauge all the way through.

Has anyone seen anything like this, or have any idea's on what I could do? I have searched t'internet and haven't seen much discussion of this.

Steve

I had this after dismantling one. It needed putting together again. I can't recall quite what was wrong but it's OK now. Something not quite fitted properly - nothing worn bent or broken.

 

[worn thumbs]

Its a few years since I had mine off the bench.I seem to recall that there is a series of slots engaging with the end of the spring and it should be possible to move it to the next position.

 

[bugbear]

Its a few years since I had mine off the bench.I seem to recall that there is a series of slots engaging with the end of the spring and it should be possible to move it to the next position.

It's easy to have the q/r too slack by a whole turn when reassembling. DAMHIKT.

BugBear (who's bought and restored quite a few s/h vises)