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I'd go with a No 4 to start.
a) Most common, least cost
b) Most versatile
Yes to ebay, browse for a while before you buy.

Other planes I like / dislike
No 2 for 'tiny' jobs, where a low angle plane isn't right.
No 6 for loooong stuff
I fell for the 51/2 and leave it well alone, too darned heavy and doesn't do anything a No can't do.
Just my view

IMHO you could enjoy the refurb work? At least you know how the plane works, fits together,
what all the twiddly bits do - and the pleasure in seeing it bright and shiny is worth it. Fun.
 
Definitely agree on the 5 1/2 as solid plane for the length. I like my No 5 but if I need something that size, the width of the 5 1/2 feels a lot more stable on the work.

I’ve cleaned up quite a few No 4s. I’m not sure if we’ve plumbed the bottom of the old plane well yet but the last few “restoration” ones I’ve seen listed were pretty grim and still north of £25.
Aye, no surprise there with the prices.
Not astronomical though, I see you could still get a no.4 for a hair over twenty.
Although, I don't know if you folks are factoring in postage also?

I think that unless you enjoy restoring old planes (and nothing wrong with that) and/or you don't place any monetary value on your time, the Tooltique planes look like a no-brainer for the money. If they are indeed restored/flattened to the standard they claim (and I see no reason to doubt that).

I think there's more value in making an old plane work than you make out.
A lot of skills one can learn.
The last plane I bought, a no.3 plane, I didn't do anything to.
All needed was sharpening of the iron, and honing of the cap iron to my preferred 50 degrees, and a good undercut,
No faffing around with the frog mating surfaces or any of that.

The close set cap iron if utilized, will make one realise that the area in front of the mouth
is of no benefit to adjust for tearout, infact the opposite.
No need for frog adjustments, if its straight and not moving then likely spot on.

So basically saying the blade and cap iron likely needs doing.
One can still make out that this is too much work, frustrating, or risky business.
I'd rather learn on a rusty cheap no.4 personally, as its likely that it will need to be worked at some stage if it gets damaged.

I've heard of folks having trouble with mating the cap to the iron.
One can straighten an iron (a laminated iron riskier) with a tap with a hammer.
Getting a mating fit on the underside of the cap iron, I see some that manage with running the entire length of it along a stone.
Every time I've done that alone, I've took more of the edges(simulated a belly in the iron)
I prefer to either use the corner of a hone, or stick a bit of abrasive down which is narrower than the width of the iron, and a few swipes along the entire length afterwards.

If one has a quick enough setup regarding lapping the iron,
Then that's about as involved as it gets.

One could lap the plane sole, but likely not need anything more than a polish to remove crud.
Beyond that is a bit involved, and a rabbit hole to find something actually flat to a tolerance you can be sure of, and method of working that will take off only the desired high spots and not just wear the ends away making a see saw.

I'm not sure I'd want to buy refurbished plane without knowing what was done to it.
Presuming the good dealers have a good write up on the matter, and quote the tolerance if they're making a point about that.
At least they take good photos, so you know what you're getting.
Some tool dealers on the bay seem to have stocks of 'job lots' which a bit more rough handed approach was used, and they never sell, thin soles like soggy wafers.
Don't tar them all with the same brush I suppose.

Tom
 
If I buy a plane that needs flattening, I send it to Ray Iles for surface grinding. He does a lovely job and is very reasonably priced. With a nice sharp blade installed, the Stanleys/Records he's done for me work every bit as well as a "premium" plane.

Do you have any contact details for Ray Iles? A web search only yields the plane irons he/they make. I’d love to have a few old planes ground flat and square!
 
I have a 3, 4, 5, 5 1/2 and a Veritas low angle block plane.

On a daily basis, I rarely use anything but the last two but am so pleased I have the others, as they may each get used once a quarter. Mine were all s/h from either my father or EBay but the 5 1/2 came from Chris Tribe - it does get used a lot, well it's the one I seem to sharpen most often!

The penultimate time I was at my parents, 185 miles away, I brought father's #7 back and gave it a good sharpen and returned it on my last visit. At 89, I can't seem him giving it too much more work, unfortunately.
 
I have too many planes, mostly bought for a few pounds at car boots, markets, and eBay. I enjoy refurbishing, so I don't worry if they're a bit rough. My most commonly used are the nos. 4 and 05 1/2 followed by the wooden jointer. I have three old block planes but they're seldomly used, in fact I use my moving fillitster more.

Nigel.
 
https://www.oldtoolstore.co.uk/ray-iles-34-c.asp
01507 525 697

I phoned that number about iron availability, I think I spoke to My Iles himself.
I ordered some irons online and got them in two days. Highly Recommended.

Thanks John, I knew about the Old Tool Store, but hadn’t made the link with Ray Iles.
Anyone have a ball-park price, for how much it will cost to regrind a plane base? Making it flat and the sides square enough for shooting? I’ll give them a call on Monday, but I’m too excited to think I might be able to rejuvenate the old dogs!
 
Thanks John, I knew about the Old Tool Store, but hadn’t made the link with Ray Iles.
Anyone have a ball-park price, for how much it will cost to regrind a plane base? Making it flat and the sides square enough for shooting? I’ll give them a call on Monday, but I’m too excited to think I might be able to rejuvenate the old dogs!
about £25 or so.
 
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