Bringing goods from the EU

[RobinBHM]

Not while we all moan about it instead of getting with it. God help us if we ever need to conscript again for a conflict.

That's my two pennorth done with.

John

It is debating rather than moaning.

I hate to say this but it does rather seem that people would like all the Brexit problems to be brushed under the carpet.

However in order to "get on with it", it's important to be informed of the facts.

 

[LBCarpentry]

We lost! For Heavens sake accept the democratic result get with the program to make Britain great again. If you can't or don't wish to do that then move to European Union to live. I am sick of the bickering from both sides. Grow up please!

John

A ridiculous thing to bark out.

I do accept the vote, I have no choice do I? But Does that mean it can’t mentioned ever again?

First off, I’m British, and therefore I love to moan. Second off, I’m British, and I love saying “I told you so”

“Make Britain great again” - first time I’ve heard that - raises an eyebrow. So is that referring to the successful Trump administration or our glorious colonial past?

Louis

 

[Misterdog]

The second problem (specifically with the above quote) is that Boris Johnson said it. The last few years have rather shown that there's absolutely no connection between what Boris says, and what Boris will do tomorrow.

Though Keir Starmer has just said that he thinks that 'probably' all nurseries and early learning centres should close.

He has constantly criticised government for sending out confusing messages,
though if they do close, then he will claim that Labour mentioned it first.

Of course we support government on this issue - but - if they had listened to us days ago, lives could have been saved.

(my version of upcoming quote Labour)

Though if child care is closed then front line medical staff may have to stay at home, thereby risking lives..

All politicians are mendacious and manipulative by nature, one party is no better than another IMO.

There are no correct answers anyway only opinions. As the indisputable science has proven during this pandemic.
The scientists are like Brexit politicians.

Has wearing masks reduced transmission ? not according to the figures I am seeing.
Some 'science' could say - image how bad it would be if we were not wearing masks.

 

[Misterdog]

However in order to "get on with it", it's important to be informed of the facts.

The only fact we have so far is that it took a bunch of overpaid politicians on both sides, 4 years of posturing to reach a deal that was always inevitable.

So why leave it until the 11th hour, thus causing even more hardship and uncertainty.
Well the EU wishes to show any other country daring to leave how hard they will make it, IMO.

 

[doctor Bob]

Anyone who has a joinery shop saying it could go bust this year, would have gone bust anyway, we have never had it so good.
Stop whinging, would you rather have a pub, cafe, nightclub, gym etc. You have a privaliged business in these terrible times.
You need to look at the bigger picture, honestly, if you can't make a profit on a job when prices of SOME materials goes up then you have priced wrong.

Talk about looking for a down side. In the past I have done jobs at a loss just to keep my guys busy, that will not happen in the present times.
I guess I'm easily pleased, this is just my view, but have some sympathy for the bigger picture and count your lucky stars.

 

[Droogs]

Not while we all moan about it instead of getting with it. God help us if we ever need to conscript again for a conflict.

That's my two pennorth done with.

John

Damn right because I for one will do everything I can to ensure that no other Scot ever takes up arms in the defence of a UK where 2 of the kingdoms in it are kept in subjugation by one of the other 2. I say that as ex UK mil. This place I find myself living in is not the place I gave 20 years to protect. I am a British passport holder/citizen and I feel genuinne shame and embaressment that I am. But as I have been stripped of my rights that I spilled my blood to have, I can not live anywhere else and have the full protection of the laws and rights I fought to defend.

 

[Benchwayze]

Typical reaction. Say something original instead of the worn out anti Colonial drivel, or don't bother.

 

[Noel]

We lost! For Heavens sake accept the democratic result get with the program to make Britain great again. If you can't or don't wish to do that then move to European Union to live. I am sick of the bickering from both sides. Grow up please!

John

Just Britain then John? Rest of UK doesn't matter to you?

 

[RobinBHM]

Though he brought unemployment in the US to a 50 year low.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/u-s-unemployment-rate-falls-50-year-low/

That's a little misleading.

What is more accurate is: "unemployment reached a 50 year low whilst Trump was in office"

I do agree that the economy hasn't done badly under Trump, but he hasn't done any amazing fiscal policies to achieve it and his tax cuts aren't sustainable.

 

[Benchwayze]

Damn right because I for one will do everything I can to ensure that no other Scot ever takes up arms in the defence of a UK where 2 of the kingdoms in it are kept in subjugation by one of the other 2. I say that as ex UK mil. This place I find myself living in is not the place I gave 20 years to protect. I am a British passport holder/citizen and I feel genuinne shame and embaressment that I am. But as I have been stripped of my rights that I spilled my blood to have, I can not live anywhere else and have the full protection of the laws and rights I fought to defend.

Droog. Your given right to say all this . Don't expect me to share with you though. I did my whack too. I was supposed to have been too young at the time. As were the Scots, Welsh and Irish lads with me. We just did as we were told. No histrionics from within the pram.

I had an idea the would be a reaction from .... well there you go!

John

 

[doctor Bob]

Starting to notice some serious price hikes in ironmongery and other consumable bits now. Some offerings have nearly doubled in price.

Could you give an example, I couldn't.
I could do 10% example, but I could do that every January.

I could also give examples of delays in products, but this started back in sept /oct, mainly due to demand and lockdown closure of factories in Europe. I overcome this by adding to the panic by spending about £20k on hardware stock.

 

[Benchwayze]

Just Britain then John? Rest of UK doesn't matter to you?

Last time I looked Noel Britain was the UK; or have I made a mistake somewhere? Jumping Jacks! That does it. Am I landed among fools?

NOTE
Great Britain

• 1. England, Wales, and Scotland considered as a unit. The name is also often used loosely to refer to the United Kingdom.
• Come back Noel?

John

 

[Noel]

Last time I looked Noel Britain was the UK; or have I made a mistake somewhere? Jumping Jacks! That does it. Am I landed among fools?

John

Looks like you may have landed in that very place John : )

 

[Droogs]

Yes Benchwayze, you are mistaken. We live on the Bristish Ilses, in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Britain is specifically England, Scotland and Wales only, even says so on passports regardless of colour

 

[Benchwayze]

Looks like you may have landed in that very place John : )

You made the gaff Noel. Not me. England is England. I never mentioned England. I said Britain, which is the UK... The four constituent parts combined. The UK, aka Britain. There's some question as to whether or not it is still Great!

John

 

[Benchwayze]

Yes Benchwayze, you are mistaken. We live on the Bristish Ilses, in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Britain is specifically England, Scotland and Wales only, even says so on passports regardless of colour

Fair enough. I have heard that before. But Noel was implying that I didn't care about certain other parts of these Isles. That was not so. You can argue the point if you wish. I won't... Britain is the UK for all practical purposes. To win your point, you think otherwise. Okay I bow to your superior knowledge, oh wise one. But the UK is Britain to most of us. And it's the Britain I care about.

 

[Misterdog]

What is more accurate is: "unemployment reached a 50 year low whilst Trump was in office"

LOL.

More accurately, is that anyone who stands under the banner of socialism will never credit anyone, not under their banner, with anything.
And vice-versa.

Trump ( a sociopath in my view) proudly boasted of the wall he would build, with criticism from much of the world.
The EU however also built a wall, providing Turkey and Libya with tens of billions to prevent migrants from crossing into the EU.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria–Turkey_barrier
Hypocrisy ?

I have no banner under which to stand, so I see both sides, and applaud few.

 

[doctor Bob]

I have no banner under which to stand, so I see both sides.

LOL, they don't like that around here......

 

[Benchwayze]

Yes Benchwayze, you are mistaken. We live on the Bristish Ilses, in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Britain is specifically England, Scotland and Wales only, even says so on passports regardless of colour

Actually I don't have a passport any more.

And Nil illegitimi carborundum deorsum pronus... )
My latin is pigeon latin, but I figure you will get my drift.

Britain... = Nillus Secundus.

John

 

[Benchwayze]

LOL, they don't like that around here......

They are clearly either Alpha or Beta people... NOT Sigma types! LOL!

Now for my roast lamb and spaghetti with tom-sauce!