Bringing goods from the EU

[sploo]

Which is against EU IP regulations.
Apparently some bloke in Co Waterford has just found out he is the point of email contact for them. Investigation on it's way.

I thought it was ok (in that .eu domains need to be owned by either an EU business or EU citizen)? Obviously the fact the guy now named is apparently surprised by it is a problem.

For me, the "amusement" was that (like so many of the Brexit backers*) they have the resources to move critical infrastructure to EU nations in order to not lose out; whereas the majority of people they convinced to vote Leave do not.

* See: Farage getting German passports for his kids, or Ratcliffe sodding off to Monaco.

 

[billw]

* See: Farage getting German passports for his kids, or Ratcliffe sodding off to Monaco.

Always laughed at the "foreigners do the jobs that no British person would do, which is why Farage's wife is German" jokes.

 

[Noel]

I thought it was ok (in that .eu domains need to be owned by either an EU business or EU citizen)? Obviously the fact the guy now named is apparently surprised by it is a problem.

And carry out their business and/or be a resident of an EU state as far as I recall.

The guy, Sean Power, in Waterford is quoted as saying:
" My lawyers are looking into this on my behalf presently and will be in touch as deemed necessary in due course, I have nothing to do with Leave.EU and never heard of it before yesterday.”

Ah, here's the small-ish print:

According to Article 4 (2) (b) of Regulation (EC) No 733/2002, as amended by Regulation (EU) 2019/517, the following persons, undertakings and organisations are eligible to register .eu domain names:

• a Union citizen, independently of their place of residence;
• a natural person who is not a Union citizen and who is a resident of a Member State;
• an undertaking that is established in the Union; or
• an organisation that is established in the Union, without prejudice to the application of national law.

 

[Jake]

Which is against EU IP regulations.
Apparently some bloke in Co Waterford has just found out he is the point of email contact for them. Investigation on it's way.

I thought they used Guido?

 

[Noel]

I thought they used Guido?

There's less than a Rizla paper between the two outfits...
@Cheshirechappie might know, he's big on Staines/Guido if I recall correctly.

 

[Jake]

There's less than a Rizla paper between the two outfits...
@Cheshirechappie might know, he's big on Staines/Guido if I recall correctly.

Sorry I meant to re-register the domain, he being Irish resident/citizen with no apparent intention of leaving for sunlit uplands.

 

[LBCarpentry]

Starting to notice some serious price hikes in ironmongery and other consumable bits now. Some offerings have nearly doubled in price. What exactly did people think would happen when we “take back control”......of nothing...

Scary for those of us who price and win jobs a few months ahead of schedule. That’s a lots of profit vanishing. I Even imagine some people will be going back to customers and saying their agreed quotation is now void. Thus losing them the business for “unprofessionalism”. What a complete mess.

 

[sploo]

Starting to notice some serious price hikes in ironmongery and other consumable bits now. Some offerings have nearly doubled in price. What exactly did people think would happen when we “take back control”......of nothing...

Scary for those of us who price and win jobs a few months ahead of schedule. That’s a lots of profit vanishing. I Even imagine some people will be going back to customers and saying their agreed quotation is now void. Thus losing them the business for “unprofessionalism”. What a complete mess.

In the interests of fairness; covid is playing a major part in the rise in shipping costs and issues around general transportation. Based on reports of problems at ports, Brexit is certainly a factor, but until covid is under control the full impact may be hard to judge.

 

[artie]

I Even imagine some people will be going back to customers and saying their agreed quotation is now void. Thus losing them the business for “unprofessionalism”.

I don't think it would be unprofessional to revise a quote when circumstances beyond your control change.
Even where a contract is signed, There should always be a clause for unforeseen circumstances.

For the last number of months, even with verbal quotes I have been adding "That's under present circumstances" who knows what next week will bring.

 

[Droogs]

such as a fundamental material change in the international status of your nation. If that happens then you should get to reconsider previous arrangements, wouldn't you agree @artie

 

[artie]

such as a fundamental material change in the international status of your nation. If that happens then you should get to reconsider previous arrangements, wouldn't you agree @artie

Or something as simple as, going to the builders merchant and being told the cupboard is bare and will be for two weeks.
That happened me more than once, On one occasion I was able to source from a different supplier for a mere 29% more.

 

[Benchwayze]

We lost! For Heavens sake accept the democratic result get with the program to make Britain great again. If you can't or don't wish to do that then move to European Union to live. I am sick of the bickering from both sides. Grow up please!

John

 

[RobinBHM]

Starting to notice some serious price hikes in ironmongery and other consumable bits now. Some offerings have nearly doubled in price. What exactly did people think would happen when we “take back control”......of nothing...

Scary for those of us who price and win jobs a few months ahead of schedule. That’s a lots of profit vanishing. I Even imagine some people will be going back to customers and saying their agreed quotation is now void. Thus losing them the business for “unprofessionalism”. What a complete mess.

Ive been warning my mate who runs a joinery shop about this.

Hafele, Hettich, Blum, Grass etc etc are all European

sheet materials..

Eggar: most plants are in Europe
Medite: factories in Ireland
Accoya made in Europe (tricoya factory being built in UK soon)



Kronospan:
2015 Shippenville, USA
2015 Ryomgaard, Denmark
2014 Le Creusot, France
2014 Auxerre, France
2013 Mogilev, Belarus
2013 Ufa, Russia
2013 Elektrogorsk, Russia
2013 Villabrazaro, Spain
2012 Burgos, Spain
2012 Salas de los Infantes, Spain
2011 Smorgon, Belarus
2009 Brasov, Romania
2009 Strzelce Opolskie, Poland
2009 Lapovo, Serbia
2007 Szombathely, Hungary
2007 Spremberg, Germany
2007 Ponterosso, Italy
2007 Veliko Tarnovo, Bulgaria
2005 Riga, Latvia
2005 Oxford Alabama, USA
2004 Mohacs, Hungary
2004 Novovolynsk, Ukraine
2004 Bjelovar, Croatia
2004 Sebes, Romania
2004 Egorievsk, Russia
2003 Zvolen, Slovakia
2001 Bischweier, Germany
2000 Beijing/Danyang, China
1998 Mielec, Poland
1997 Burgas, Bulgaria
1996 Pustków, Poland
1995 Jihlava, Czech Republic
1994 Sanem, Luxembourg
1993 Lampertswalde, Germany
1992 Poznan, Poland
1989 Szczecinek, Poland
1982 Sandebeck, Germany
1970 Chirk, United Kingdom
1959 Salzburg, Austria
1897 Lungötz, Austria

 

[RobinBHM]

the program to make Britain great again

will it be as successful as Trump making America Great Again?

 

[Droogs]

I can't make Britain great again Im not allowed to get the bus to london and storm westminster.

 

[Misterdog]

Oh, and £350 mil a week for the NHS. But it seems we're just clapping for them again instead.

Though that figure rose after 2016.

In 2018 the UK’s gross contribution to the EU amounted to £20.0 billion; however, this amount of money was never actually transferred to the EU. It is best thought of as a theoretical liability.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/gove...les/theukcontributiontotheeubudget/2017-10-31
Many seem unable to grasp a difference between gross and nett figures though.


But in the interview with the Guardian newspaper, Johnson said the UK’s weekly gross contribution to the EU would rise to 438 million pounds by the time Britain left the bloc.

“There was an error on the side of the bus,” Johnson said. “We grossly underestimated the sum over which we would be able to take back control. As and when the cash becomes available – and it won’t until we leave – the NHS should be at the very top of the list.”

As for the Brexit pound, well it was worth 2.6 Dollars the year before we joined the EU.

It was still a dumb idea IMO.

 

[Benchwayze]

Not while we all moan about it instead of getting with it. God help us if we ever need to conscript again for a conflict.

That's my two pennorth done with.

John

 

[Misterdog]

will it be as successful as Trump making America Great Again?

Though he brought unemployment in the US to a 50 year low.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/u-s-unemployment-rate-falls-50-year-low/

 

[sploo]

“There was an error on the side of the bus,” Johnson said. “We grossly underestimated the sum over which we would be able to take back control. As and when the cash becomes available – and it won’t until we leave – the NHS should be at the very top of the list.”

There are two small issues with that; one being that most of the individuals that fronted the leave campaign are opposed to social services (such as socialised healthcare). Indeed some had even written or publicly spoken in favour of NHS privatization, or replacing it with "some sort of health insurance". As such, it would seem somewhat unlikely that those individuals would hand extra cash to the NHS; even if it were available. It would essentially be like an economically left wing politician trying to gain votes by claiming they'd support larger bonuses for bankers - it's just not particularly plausible, given that person's political history.

The second problem (specifically with the above quote) is that Boris Johnson said it. The last few years have rather shown that there's absolutely no connection between what Boris says, and what Boris will do tomorrow.

Not while we all moan about it instead of getting with it. God help us if we ever need to conscript again for a conflict.

We are all getting on with it. Many of us are trying to work out how to get on with our business and personal lives whilst working around the problems it's caused.

 

[Benchwayze]

Okay Sploo. I don't worry about folk like you. It's fruitless whinging I am sick of. But I am sure you got my point to begin with.

John