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I'm looking at a new drill press. This one seems to have everything I need;
http://www.axminster.co.uk/axminster-ho ... dial-drill

but its too high. I have a higher than average work bench. Do you think it would be relatively easy to cut about 20cm off the upright tube to lower the height?
or have you any alternatives?

Mod-edit: This was originally posted in hand tools, not quite the appropriate place seeking information about drill presses, Please ensure that the correct board is chosen in future. Thanks.
 
the problem is that the max chuck to table is 385mm. A 12mm drill must be 100-150mm in length, so if you trim 200mm off the column, you may struggle to drill anything thicker than an inch. smaller drills are shorter, but even so, I wouldn't shorten it. Can you locate it on its own stand?
 
good point I hadnt thought of.

I will have to go measure the roof space over the bench.
 
on further measurements, the height isnt a problem, the depth is!

its 800mm plus, and my bench is only 600mm. Back to the drawing board.
 
it is the radial part that is the problem then, I think. I ma not sure how much use that feature will be- most drill presses don't have it, so people must manage.
 
Bob, I seem to recall that after about a year of woodworking you'd still not mastered hand planing, you were very frustrated at your inability to plane a flat surface and were thinking of packing it in. Have you got that sorted yet? If not there's little point distracting yourself with yet more bargain basement machinery that has very little resale value if you do throw in the towel.
 
Custard, yes, I was that man.
I'm now ready to try again. having acquired several old wooden planes in a very short time, i have now bought the JET sharpening system to make and keep the blades sharp.
I am confident (fairly) that I can now do what I want with the wood I want to use.
I've been babysitting two grandkids for the whole 6 weeks of holidays, and am now ready to start again.
My main reason for buying this drill is I have a very old wolfcraft drill stand with a Ryobi hammer drill forced into it. Its done rough service for 6 years now, but its a mess, and it doesnt drill perpendicular holes. Its well overdue for replacement so I thought I might like some bells and whistles while I'm at it.
 
sunnybob":2qz7wvez said:
I am confident (fairly) that I can now do what I want with the wood I want to use.

Top man! Best of luck fettling your planes and keep us posted how you get on.
 
Sunnybob: the grandchildren have evidently made you stir-crazy!

I really, really wouldn't do that 'radial' thing!

You'll hardly ever need the extra reach. You'll hardly ever tilt the table. You'll NEVER want to tilt the head. Ever.

But you'll always curse the thing when it slips out of square because something worked loose. It might even be top heavy, in which case I can imagine it tipping over suddenly when least expected. Life is way too short.

The most important thing we all need from any drill press is clean SQUARE holes, accurately* in the right place.

You can get bench-top presses s/h from the local paper, or auctions, or Gumtree, or even eBay if really desperate.
Something from a school would be good - they usually bought decent quality in the first place.

Check when you buy. They're not complicated mechanisms, and it's easy to hear if the bearings are bad, or find something odd when you raise/lower the quill. Take a small square; check for squareness and a small drill bit to check it runs true.

For wood, slow speeds are more useful than very fast ones (we rarely drill really small holes), and you don't need a lot of different speeds - something a machinist would snort at would probably do fine. You can improve many drill presses simply by fitting a decent chuck with a M2 Morse taper adaptor (they're usually M2 in the quill). Cost: less than 20 quid all in. I have three chucks, to suit different sizes of drill bit - they only take seconds to change.

The one luxury I'd go for is a work light, either built in or added (Ikea have gooseneck work lights for about ten quid, that would do fine).

Three recommended accessories:
1. a small engineer's square to reset the table if can be tilted,
2. a decent hold down clamp or two. Making your own table (with clamps) is better still,
3. a good magnet from an older hard disk (the older, the stronger the magnets!), to keep the chuck key on the side of the head where it belongs.

Finally, the really old hand-powered presses are usually good quality, and even cheaper than anything mains powered.

I bet you'll find something this autumn, at a fraction of new price, that does you proud for years.

E.

*Accuracy is what we think is accurate. People argue about this, but "good enough for me" is good enough.
 
Erik (if youre a viking, shouldnt that be Erek?)
Mostly youre right.
I have already moved away from a tilting radial, but only because of its size and cost. It just will not fit on my bench, and I'm not rebuilding anything any more.

I have other considerations though. i live in Cyprus, no ebay, gumshoe, school sales, or any other cheap sources here. Everything I buy has to be air shipped when i or my wife visit England. So it cant be more than 32 kg all in.

I am now looking at the axminster here
http://www.axminster.co.uk/axminster-ho ... rill-press.

I have a couple weeks to make a final decision. next flight back to Cyprus is late october.
We do have an Ikea though (just the one) and I have their lights on my bandsaw and router sled.


I lived in Somerset for 30 years and know bristle well,I have a couple friends there, one is a wood turner /hobbyist.
 
I see something concerning in the specs there - 350 watt motor. (or is it 375 - it says both in the description).

I've got a bench top press, too, and it's effectively got a 550 watt motor and I have found its limits from time to time.

the bench top press that I got was effectively equivalent to about 120 pounds if I'd have had to pay vat (ryobi brand), probably on par with that type for quality.

Grizzly over here sells a glom (at least they used to) of that radial press. Floor standing and bench top, but it was quite a bit less than that IIRC. If you bought it and it was a turd, it'd be impossible to turn it back into any significant amount of money.
 
Anything from the USA is out of the question, shipping and customs and taxes will TRIPLE the buying price (and take 3 months to get here!).
Axminster is a very good and very big UK shop, its back up service is good, and I can get parts from there to here without much fuss.

as far as limits, yup, i push them all the time, but I have to be realistic with size and expense now that I'm retired.

The jury is still out, I just know I HAVE to upgrade this year. Its just a question of how many bells and whistles I'm prepared to pay for.
 
sunnybob":3u6n0ns1 said:
Anything from the USA is out of the question, shipping and customs and taxes will TRIPLE the buying price (and take 3 months to get here!).
Axminster is a very good and very big UK shop, its back up service is good, and I can get parts from there to here without much fuss.

as far as limits, yup, i push them all the time, but I have to be realistic with size and expense now that I'm retired.

The jury is still out, I just know I HAVE to upgrade this year. Its just a question of how many bells and whistles I'm prepared to pay for.

Yes, not suggesting you get anything from the US. Stuff goes from asia straight to the UK, and I'm sure that whatever grizzly has, you can get something similar with a different color paint and retailed in the UK by axminster or someone else.

Drill presses of that small class are sold at all kinds of retailers here and not just woodworking supplies. I got mine at our Home Depot, not sure what the equivalent is over there. I can't remember if it's 12 or 14 inch swing, but there are lots of imported 12-14 inch swing machines that have to be in that price range or less there.
 
That Axy one is very similar to mine (mine is a Clarke). I trust Axminster's QC much more than Clarke though.

Mine is 500W, but I never come close to straining it. Although the Axy one's motor is small it's probably adequate for most woodworking tasks. I actually prefer the 'hobby' version otherwise, because you can remove the handles (they unscrew), which is dead handy as they otherwise can get in the way.

Is there really no tool shop on the island that you could get one from? It seems like a very expensive way to transport one. That said, Axminster will probably be more helpful than most...
 
There are 2 large tool shops on the island now. One is a french B&Q style hypermarket called Leroy merlin. but hey, its french.
There is another that has a good selection, but as they have a virtual monopoly, the prices make you squint.
For example, I have a makita jigsaw. from the UK, £125. Here, with an advertised 30% off, £225.

My air shipping also isnt that big a deal. We fly back to the UK a few times a year to visit family, and if theres an offer on to upgrade to business class at a fair price, I can then bring back 4 x 32 kg boxes plus cabin luggage. As it also gives us access to the airport lounges, and slightly better seating and food, its an added bonus.
 

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