Axninister latest mag

[Racers]

Hi,

It came through yesterday and has sone nice stuff like
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.asp? ... =1&jump=44
But they also had a saw horse kit for £39.99, 5 bits of wood and a couple of bits of ply :shock:


Pete

 

[wobblycogs]

I know what you mean about the saw horse, I even showed SWMBO as I couldn't figure out who it was supposed to be aimed at.

 

[RogerS]

I know what you mean about the saw horse, I even showed SWMBO as I couldn't figure out who it was supposed to be aimed at.

Rhinestone Cowboy?

 

[bodgermatic]

Yeah, I had the same feeling about the sawhorse. Presumably once you've made it with the kit you can use it to, er, saw up some bits of wood to make something else. Maybe they're catering to people who can't saw without a sawhorse Chicken, egg...

 

[DeepBlue]

Yeah, I had the same feeling about the sawhorse. Presumably once you've made it with the kit you can use it to, er, saw up some bits of wood to make something else. Maybe they're catering to people who can't saw without a sawhorse Chicken, egg...

Or you could just try this:

 

[Racers]

Hi,

You do get £10 off if you order 2 :shock:

Pete

 

[Mr Ed]

But they also had a saw horse kit for £39.99, 5 bits of wood and a couple of bits of ply :shock:

I thought the saw horse price was outrageous for what it was, not Axminsters normal style.

Ed

 

[Argus]

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That angle finder is a seriously useful bit of kit.
I can see a use for that.



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[newt]

But what about the glue :?

 

[Alf]

For the first time in months I actually flicked through said Axminster missive, and nearly choked on the saw horses. What the dickens? I mean my sawhorses aren't "proper" by any manner of means, but it's surely not beyond the wit of woodworking man (and woman) to fill this need themselves in some way. We live in the age of wondrous glues and bits of ply to make everything stay together, for Norm's sake. I suppose I should just rejoice that the concept of an old fashioned wooden saw horse still exists at all, but it's taking some effort. It's about this time I regret that the late lamented John Brown never got his Anarchist Woodworker idea really flying; saw horses were one of his early projects.

Cheers, Alf

 

[Mr Ed]

I've been meaning to make one to this design for a while;

http://www.popularwoodworking.com/artic ... _sawbench/

Ed

 

[erik]

did you know that they are now banned on most sites?
apparently if you stand on them you can fall off and hurt yourself :shock:

 

[Mr Ed]

did you know that they are now banned on most sites?
apparently if you stand on them you can fall off and hurt yourself :shock:

I don't know about banned on most sites - hop ups are allowed on my sites. The only thing not allowed tends to be trestles.

This is one of those things people like to quote in a Daily Mail H&S gone mad way, but its not actually true in most cases.

Ed

 

[erik]

well i've worked as a site manager for 3 of the major housebuilders in the last 5 years and they were banned on all of their sites. as a former site carpenter i think its a ridiculous rule. if i come across anyone using one i have to ask them to remove it from site and if they wont they have to remove themselves. as i said... ridiculous
i read a quality newspaper btw...the sport

 

[Nick Gibbs]

well i've worked as a site manager for 3 of the major housebuilders in the last 5 years and they were banned on all of their sites. as a former site carpenter i think its a ridiculous rule. if i come across anyone using one i have to ask them to remove it from site and if they wont they have to remove themselves. as i said... ridiculous

What are you supposed to use instead? Are trestles permitted?

Nick

 

[OPJ]

How tall are these horses that get banned, Erik? If they're taller than 600mm then, I can almost see where they're coming from - I think that's the minimum height from which they consider you could fall and seriously injure yourself.

 

[Mr Ed]

How tall are these horses that get banned, Erik? If they're taller than 600mm then, I can almost see where they're coming from - I think that's the minimum height from which they consider you could fall and seriously injure yourself.

Wrong I'm afraid - the work at height regulations created a regime where any height off the ground requires a risk assessment to determine the appropriate method of work. This could still be a sawhorse or a trestle if you can demonstrate that it is appropriate and have a safe and sufficient method of work to cover it. That said, given that you need to have a means of stopping someone falling its unlikely that you could demonstrate them to be appropriate for standing on. Using them as a work surface is a different matter. The contractors headache is that once they are on the site people will abuse them.

Legally, none of the means of access like step ladders, or trestles etc are banned, but certain contractors impose their own rules based on what they perceive the risk to be.

Its a thorny little subject, which occupies a good chunk of my working life...

Ed

 

[erik]

it is getting ridiculous on site. plasterers, painters etc are no longer allowed to stand on beer crates to reach an ordinary domestic ceiling height. they can however, use a made for purpose plastic hop-up which is exactly the same size and height as a crate or they can use stilts which i have seen slip more than once on the polythene covered chipboard flooring which is now used.
if carpenters want to use a bench to saw on they are forced to use a proprietary collapsible aluminium type, which admittedly may be more stable to stand on, but create a different hazard when using as a bench and trying to hold the workpiece firm whilst sawing etc.