Are 4" cast iron butts no longer avail.... - updated, found and fitted.

[toolsntat]

By this I mean real ones and not eastern imitations.
Know of any old stock anywhere?
Cheers Andy

 

[TheTiddles]

Cast iron what? Do you mean butt hinges?

 

[Doug71]

Not proper old ones but might be okay?

https://www.marchesironmongery.co.uk/4-self-coloured-cast-iron-butt-hinges-pair.html

 

[toolsntat]

Cast iron what? Do you mean butt hinges?

Sorry, yes hinges.
Andy

 

[toolsntat]

Not proper old ones but might be okay?

https://www.marchesironmongery.co.uk/4-self-coloured-cast-iron-butt-hinges-pair.html

Thanks Doug, had seen those at Imgy Direct.
Leaves are a bit narrow so ordered some of these chunky monkeys as well to see what's best.
https://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk...-steel-hinge-100x73mm-self-colour-pair-919587Cheers Andy

 

[TheTiddles]

I can’t see cast iron being a good material for a hinge personally
Aidan

 

[Cabinetman]

They used to use cast-iron in Victorian times a lot, one of the main benefits is that cast-iron is self lubricating. Trying to replace hinges on an old door that has had cast-iron hinges fitted originally is a bit of a nightmare. Ian

 

[toolsntat]

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Let in new and make ready for a rechop is my favoured way.

 

[toolsntat]

At the final hour, I've found some old originals.
Highly recommend Pete at
http://www.antiques-atlas.com/oldbakeryantiquesDidn't have 4 matching in his tin of ORIGINAL CAST hinges so removed some from a couple of doors he had in stock..
This place is amazing for vintage ironmongery and architectural requisites.
Ps watch out for the camel.....
Cheers Andy

 

[Artiglio]

A bit of an aside , but alledgedly the phrase ” they don’t make them like they use to” was a reference to cast iron hinges made by Baldwins. I was after a load of 2.5 inch cast iron hinges , plenty available but the quality was awful , so gave up and used brass.

 

[toolsntat]

Just an update to say the hinges have come up great after a quick blast on the wire wheel.
Was a pleasure to hand fit them, as I usually do, especially having a fresh surface to work with.
Owing to having the architrave bead edge flush with the rebate, they were skewed to leave no chop in on the outside edge of the frame rebate.
Overview to show why I wanted quality old hinges.
Lock's being replaced, as are temp screws in hinges....
Cheers Andy

 

[clogs]

I have a box of very old C/I Hinges...mine have brass pins.....but they are a 1000miles away....hahaha.....
Tiddles
these were used outside in all weathers....pre stainless steel----cast iron doesn't rot like steel
Brass hinges, cast or drawn were always very expensive even in the old days....