american association of woodturners

[cornucopia]

hello folks i don't know if any of you also look in on the aaw site?? but they've launched an interesting area of members work for sale i'm not sure if that link will work- but if not log in and look for artists gallery/marketplace.

I think this is a brilliant idea and once again shows how the american market is different and imo always ahead of us u.k turners

what do you think?

 

[boysie39]

George,Wow some real well known names on there. Some beautiful work . I cant imagine how long it takes to produce pieces like that.
When can we expect to see an entry by you,cant be long now. Looking fwd. to your entry. Thanks for letting us know about the site. REgards Boysie.

 

[Bodrighy]

They have the Del Manio Gallery which specialises in woodturning as reflected in the prices for some of the work. Bacvk to the old thing of woodturning: art or craft? Both innovative and top quality. Maybe one day the UK will wake up.


Thanks for the link George.
Pete

 

[CHJ]

Thanks for the Link George, lots of inspiration under one flag, I have this feeling if you tried to do similar here in the UK you would have a couple of years 'discussion' about who was funding it and endless sniping about whether the standard of an item was worthy of inclusion in the gallery.

I guess you would need a hard core of established artists in the field with strong enough character to impose the standards in such a venture.

Perhaps it's just me in cynical mood today.

 

[Bodrighy]

Thanks for the Link George, lots of inspiration under one flag, I have this feeling if you tried to do similar here in the UK you would have a couple of years 'discussion' about who was funding it and endless sniping about whether the standard of an item was worthy of inclusion in the gallery.

I guess you would need a hard core of established artists in the field with strong enough character to impose the standards in such a venture.

Perhaps it's just me in cynical mood today.

Or realism

Pete

 

[loz]

Just can't justify €15,000 for the nice Cindy D box !

 

[mark sanger]

Fantastic. It would be nice to see over here.

There are some differences with the American market which means that buyers can off set tax against art work.

But also having worked over the water a few times there is a big difference in attitude.

In America if an American wants to do something they say " lets get on and do it guys" and nothing stops them.

Over here we say " oh but it has been tried before, oh it won;t work, oh we should not do it like that as it has always been done this way"

The Americans are a head of us as because of there attitude and acceptance to the diverse forms of turning/art.


Just my opinion.

Anyway I don;t want to turn George's thread into a debate. As the American site and work says enough about it.

Thank you for the link George

 

[gasmansteve]

I think my laptop is playing up. I could have sworn this `dance in the storm` http://www.woodturner.org/resources/bb/ ... y/delMano/
which I think is a lump of wood with a bread bun stuck in it is selling for 60 grand :shock: . Must get a new pc.
Steve

 

[Jenx]

I think my laptop is playing up. I could have sworn this `dance in the storm` http://www.woodturner.org/resources/bb/ ... y/delMano/
which I think is a lump of wood with a bread bun stuck in it is selling for 60 grand :shock: . Must get a new pc.
Steve

I must admit, I wasn't 'convinced' by it either ! ... not that I'd necessarily 'know' good art if I saw it ... but show me that, and show me Mark Sanger's black bowl with the pale ball , hole and cutaway, or his tall piece with the chilli on top, and I know which one(s) I'd have picked, 1000 times out of 1000.

That said, there are some lovely pieces to look at on the site there ... some more appealing than others, but as they say - its in the eye of the beholder.
And I'd also advocate not 'talking down' too much of the work done on our own fair shores.... the Marks, Corny's stuff, the Nick Agar's of the world etc... we don't do too shabby a job of 'representing ourselves' really 8)

very nice to see though... good link most enjoyable !

 

[mark sanger]

I think my laptop is playing up. I could have sworn this `dance in the storm` http://www.woodturner.org/resources/bb/ ... y/delMano/
which I think is a lump of wood with a bread bun stuck in it is selling for 60 grand :shock: . Must get a new pc.
Steve

Steve

that is me under a pseudonym. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I wish

Yes it is $60,000

That is the thing about art. If someone wants it then they have to pay the price.

It will be interesting to see if it does actually sell. But I do like it and is I was a gazillionare would pay the money for it.

 

[mark sanger]

Damn Jenx

I would have not written what I did if I had know what you were typing at the same time.

Thank you very much

You can get one of my black bowls for much less than $60,000 I can tell you, they are only £2000.

I wish, I wish, I wish.

In fact after saying that I might give you one. But when I do not know as I am normally 6 months behind on my work.

:lol: :lol:

 

[Jenx]

heh heh heh .... I'll be chuffed to bits when I can buy your DVD !! 8) 8) 8)

For sure, I know which pieces I'd prefer.... no doubt about it

 

[Paul.J]

Great link George with some beautiful looking pieces
Do people really pay that much for a piece of turned/sculpted wood :shock:
If i was a zillionaire i still don't think i would :?:

 

[mark sanger]

I think we live in a different world. :shock: :shock:

I guess if you have that sort of money it is like parting with fifty quid.

 

[boysie39]

Sorry George, Its your post but picking up on a point Mark made about the Yanks no looking for excuses or faults and getting on and doing it while the Brits look for reasons not to do something,I wonder if you were to match the two econemys which is better.
As regards the AAw site and the art side of things IMHO what is the sence in preparing a lump of timber for a number of years and painting over the grain covering up what beauty nature has provided so that it can be called ART.
Surely it is a potters wheel and not a lathe they should be using. On the forum over the past few years some of the loveliest pieces have been shown without paints and can be judged or their timber value which IMO is what woodturning is about.
But then I dont have to make a living from it . REgards Boysie

 

[mark sanger]

Sorry George, Its your post but picking up on a point Mark made about the Yanks no looking for excuses or faults and getting on and doing it while the Brits look for reasons not to do something,I wonder if you were to match the two econemys which is better.
As regards the AAw site and the art side of things IMHO what is the sence in preparing a lump of timber for a number of years and painting over the grain covering up what beauty nature has provided so that it can be called ART.
Surely it is a potters wheel and not a lathe they should be using. On the forum over the past few years some of the loveliest pieces have been shown without paints and can be judged or their timber value which IMO is what woodturning is about.
But then I dont have to make a living from it . REgards Boysie

A very valid point boysie and one I can not disagree with.

There is a great beauty in wood and one that should be celebrated. After all as you say why cover it up.

However I believe there is room for both forms of work. but I agree I would not myself want to cover up a burr, but a plain piece of sycamore can lend itself to the addition of colour, IMO.

 

[Oakbear]

Although some of that work gets me thinking abour artistic possibilities, and is obviously very skilled, i honestly have to say i find most of it F-ugly. The only piece i'd have in my house is the bird form (which is truely lovely).

It's in the eye of the beholder i suppose.

Is there room over here for something to promote the artistic end though?

There seems to be a real or perceived ceiling on price for unique pieces. Even the most detailed expert work over here goes for hunderds rather than thousands, whereas a shark in a jar or an embroidered tent can fetch big money.

 

[mark sanger]

Although some of that work gets me thinking abour artistic possibilities, and is obviously very skilled, i honestly have to say i find most of it F-ugly. The only piece i'd have in my house is the bird form (which is truely lovely).

It's in the eye of the beholder i suppose.

Is there room over here for something to promote the artistic end though?

There seems to be a real or perceived ceiling on price for unique pieces. Even the most detailed expert work over here goes for hunderds rather than thousands, whereas a shark in a jar or an embroidered tent can fetch big money.

I certainly agree with you about the shark in the jar issue. I too can not get to grips with it.

But it is the thought process behind the pieces ( from what I understand) makes it art. And not necessarily the actual piece itself on it;s own.