Alarm for garage
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Phil Pascoe
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I used to wire the chassis and body of my caravan to the mains. It stopped the teal leaves ... it stopped me a couple of times as well when I went home after beer o'clock. Good job the long grass around it was soft to land in. 
I've had one of these on my garage wall for over 30 years, never been burgled yet.
https://www.amazon.com/NEVER-BEWARE-OWN ... B0084NU6XG
https://www.amazon.com/NEVER-BEWARE-OWN ... B0084NU6XG
another one I have always liked
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Phil Pascoe
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Rather like "Survivors Will Be Prosecuted".
transatlantic
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So which smart water kit did you buy Phil? I like how they have managed to get the membership model in there, must be a very good earner!
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Phil Pascoe
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I think it's about £90 p.a. - you get the dye, seems to be an unlimited amount but you'd need to mark hundreds of things before you run out, a brush, a collection of notices for your doors and windows, a few sheets of small stickers for the items marked and a lamp so you can check what you've marked. If the goods are found in can be traced back to you without any doubt - you mark them in places that cannot be reached to abrade. Commercially you can get systems that spray the intruder, but I don't know what that costs. I see in some London boroughs the councils are supplying the stuff free (gave my age away there, not saying "for free" :lol: ) so they obviously think it works. As I said before, I just work the theory that anything that makes your neighbour's more attractive than yours is good. I wonder also if you get a little more back up from the plod if at least you have made attempts to safeguard your belongings? Who knows? Although after my recent dealings with them I doubt it.
novocaine
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obviously fitting wired over wireless has nothing to do with it taking 20 minutes to fit a wireless setup over 2 days to do a proper job of a wired system.
Yale wireless alarm uses 2 frequencies and data encryption (if they come with the gear to block it they are coming with the gear to deal with anything you have) and is anti tamper on all units, if it's removed from the wall it sounds, even if it isn't turned on at the time. if it's front is removed, it sounds. same with the door sensors. the alarm box has 3 anti tamper sensors on it, 1 for the wall and 2 for the cover. the only bit that doesn't have it is the control keypad. get the one with zoning and you can set the garage and not the house unless you're out, then you can set it all. 1 PIR per room and 1 door sensor per door.
the hardest part of fitting it is adding in new items.
I've fitted this to a number of houses now, never had an issue with one yet, it tells me when batteries are going flat, it takes minutes (once I've read the instructions again on how to put it in maintenance mode) to swap them out, they last about 2 years.
oh and the keypad isn't where the brains are, so even if that gets smashed the alarm will still sound, if the box gets smashed (and you'd have to be giving it some to do that) it won't sound but neither will any other alarm.
Yale wireless alarm uses 2 frequencies and data encryption (if they come with the gear to block it they are coming with the gear to deal with anything you have) and is anti tamper on all units, if it's removed from the wall it sounds, even if it isn't turned on at the time. if it's front is removed, it sounds. same with the door sensors. the alarm box has 3 anti tamper sensors on it, 1 for the wall and 2 for the cover. the only bit that doesn't have it is the control keypad. get the one with zoning and you can set the garage and not the house unless you're out, then you can set it all. 1 PIR per room and 1 door sensor per door.
the hardest part of fitting it is adding in new items.
I've fitted this to a number of houses now, never had an issue with one yet, it tells me when batteries are going flat, it takes minutes (once I've read the instructions again on how to put it in maintenance mode) to swap them out, they last about 2 years.
oh and the keypad isn't where the brains are, so even if that gets smashed the alarm will still sound, if the box gets smashed (and you'd have to be giving it some to do that) it won't sound but neither will any other alarm.
transatlantic
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Can you really not see the problem having gun blanks fired would cause? People aren't going to know it's a blank. It would be treated like any other gun shot and there would be mass panic from both your neighbours and the police. And chances are, it would have gone off by mistakeNazNomad":3dbop7ra said:
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My friend has firearms in the house and he has a system wired to the police. He has accidentally tested it by locking himself out once, and having to break in. The police were there within 15 minutes, despite him phoning the local nick and explaining. They still flew out there to confirm who he was, and he lives in the wilds of somerset. In the same county my mother in law (living in the county town) was burgled and an estimate of two days was given over the phone. The mention of firearms is a magic key.
BUT, My friends system is wireless, with a sensor in every room, and he often has problems with a sensor in a room not used much to just go "offline" and the main box forgets its there. Once that happens, he cant even set it off by jumping around in front of it, it needs a complete system reset.
No big deal on a well used workshop, but if youre thinking of whole house, I would say go wired.
My friend has firearms in the house and he has a system wired to the police. He has accidentally tested it by locking himself out once, and having to break in. The police were there within 15 minutes, despite him phoning the local nick and explaining. They still flew out there to confirm who he was, and he lives in the wilds of somerset. In the same county my mother in law (living in the county town) was burgled and an estimate of two days was given over the phone. The mention of firearms is a magic key.
BUT, My friends system is wireless, with a sensor in every room, and he often has problems with a sensor in a room not used much to just go "offline" and the main box forgets its there. Once that happens, he cant even set it off by jumping around in front of it, it needs a complete system reset.
No big deal on a well used workshop, but if youre thinking of whole house, I would say go wired.
Lons
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NazNomad":21l4jxrm said:
An armed response unit were at my door 11pm on a Sunday night after I phoned police headquarters to ask which was the best police station to hand in a rusty old .22 rifle I'd collected from a widow friend when sorting her late husbands workshop.
That was despite them knowing all details, address, phone numbers and that 2 of my close neighbours were a DCI and retired police firearms instructor.
The 2 armed officers were on overtime and travelled 30 miles to my house.
As Naz said, the word gun provokes an immediate response.
transatlantic
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Lons":2d9cijzd said:
I think you guys are missing my point. Of course it's an immediate response but it's not the response you want.
Think of the time and money spent for that call out. It's taking advantage of the situation in my opinion, and we should have more respect for these services.
Phil Pascoe
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We had two valuable dogs put down for sheep worrying - a local dog was coming and luring them away - they were never know to go off our property wthout this dog on the scene. A few weeks after, the dog appeared in our field. I rung the police and asked them to get rid of it as I had livestock and it had already cost us a lot of money. I got the brush off with what on earth do you expect us to do? (I knew this would happen but I was making a point). I said not to worry as I'd shoot it. Three police cars in five minutes. I did shoot it later - where the sun don't shine with both barrels of 12 bore, cartridges full of rock salt. Didn't see it again for three years.
Yup - just mention a gun and they'll be there.
Yup - just mention a gun and they'll be there.
novocaine
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having had the armed response team out once I don't need it again.
legally shooting in a field with a .77 air rifle for pest control.
some busy body decided to call in about a man (didn't notice there were 2 of us) with a gun acting suspiciously on the boarder of their garden (apparently stalking bunnies is suspicious now). the boys in blue were not best pleased to be called out but had to respond because it is the local constabularies policy to respond to all calls which involve "firearms". we strolled back to the farmhouse, all had a brew and a biscuit then a bit of a chat along with me explaining the other bits and bobs I had locked up at home (one of them was the inspecting officer for my property and had seen all the kit about 6 months before) a bit of a chat about the local competitions and how a few of them were doing in it that year and they went on their way. still, having 6 men in full tactile with ar-15 and HK mp5's is enough to make anyone's sphincter react.
they had a chat with the busy body afterwards, turns out they were new to the area having lived in a city for the past 20 years.
those "mines" are fine for rural areas, no way are they acceptable for suburbs, the armed response are far to busy to deal with that. (opinion)
legally shooting in a field with a .77 air rifle for pest control.
some busy body decided to call in about a man (didn't notice there were 2 of us) with a gun acting suspiciously on the boarder of their garden (apparently stalking bunnies is suspicious now). the boys in blue were not best pleased to be called out but had to respond because it is the local constabularies policy to respond to all calls which involve "firearms". we strolled back to the farmhouse, all had a brew and a biscuit then a bit of a chat along with me explaining the other bits and bobs I had locked up at home (one of them was the inspecting officer for my property and had seen all the kit about 6 months before) a bit of a chat about the local competitions and how a few of them were doing in it that year and they went on their way. still, having 6 men in full tactile with ar-15 and HK mp5's is enough to make anyone's sphincter react.
they had a chat with the busy body afterwards, turns out they were new to the area having lived in a city for the past 20 years.
those "mines" are fine for rural areas, no way are they acceptable for suburbs, the armed response are far to busy to deal with that. (opinion)
The "armed response" stories are legion.
A different friend was in his own garden with a large hedge all the way round, outside the village boundary, cleaning his rifle on a sunday morning when a worried voice came over the hedge "Please put down the gun and step away".
Yup, another townie, brown nosing over a private hedge and going into spasms at the sight of a firearm. Didnt even know enough to see it was in pieces before calling the riot squad.
And this was before terrorism as we know it today.
A different friend was in his own garden with a large hedge all the way round, outside the village boundary, cleaning his rifle on a sunday morning when a worried voice came over the hedge "Please put down the gun and step away".
Yup, another townie, brown nosing over a private hedge and going into spasms at the sight of a firearm. Didnt even know enough to see it was in pieces before calling the riot squad.
And this was before terrorism as we know it today.
Phil Pascoe
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The boys in the village where I was born had their own shotguns by the time they were eleven or twelve.
