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stevebuk

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As above, just been conned in to parting with £150 as they told my wife we had a PPi claim waiting, she paid them (bless her) to find we have 'joined' them and can we send all our policy's for them to look into, total scam, the credit card company is now looking into it for us..
Ba$***d$
 
I hate that. I paid £30 for an item thinking the company were based in the Uk but they were in Switzerland and I did not have a leg to stand on. They just go on coning people and laughing all the way to the bank. Itried to get my money back to no avail.
 
This is your lucky day.

I have been working on this problem for a while and, incredible as it may sound, I have discovered that everybody on this forum has an outstanding wrongly sold PPI claim and are due compensation. In some cases they didn't know they had taken out PPI. As a fair minded person I just need to cover my costs so far, so if you send me just £25 I will send you details of how you can get your money. Any additional gratuities are discretional. :twisted:
 
whiskywill":2faqs4kq said:
This is your lucky day.

I have been working on this problem for a while and, incredible as it may sound, I have discovered that everybody on this forum has an outstanding wrongly sold PPI claim and are due compensation. In some cases they didn't know they had taken out PPI. As a fair minded person I just need to cover my costs so far, so if you send me just £25 I will send you details of how you can get your money. Any additional gratuities are discretional. :twisted:

I'd prefer to send it direct to your bank - what's the details? :wink:
 
Steve

From the brief facts stated you should have a claim under s.75 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 for misrepresentation (the presumably false claim that "we had a PPI claim waiting") which induced your wife into entering into the contract . If your credit card company agrees then it will refund the £150. If it doesn't then it would likely be worthwhile to refer your complaint to the Financial Ombudsman Service (it's free, and if you have ever bought PPI then FOS will look at that also - as a separate complaint, also for free).

Feel free to send a PM if you'd like more guidance.

Mike (ex- FOS employee)
 
Mike.S":3gckpmvc said:
Steve

From the brief facts stated you should have a claim under s.75 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 for misrepresentation (the presumably false claim that "we had a PPI claim waiting") which induced your wife into entering into the contract . If your credit card company agrees then it will refund the £150. If it doesn't then it would likely be worthwhile to refer your complaint to the Financial Ombudsman Service (it's free, and if you have ever bought PPI then FOS will look at that also - as a separate complaint, also for free).

Feel free to send a PM if you'd like more guidance.

Mike (ex- FOS employee)


Hi Mike
i have been in contact with my credit card company who say they will act for us but have to give them 30 days in which for them to reimburse us the full amount (it wont happen), only then can they act.
I have written 2 letters to their different address's and posted an email to them also saying what the credit company said i should say, need to leave it with them, but yes if all else fails i would like to know more just in case..

Aims review phoned again today and spoke to my wife and when she said could you just have a word with my husband he put the phone down on me before i could speak, and he was the quaity control person, hah..
 
In brief:

- as the contract was made over the phone it probably is captured by the Consumer Protection (Distance Selling) Regulations 2000, which gives your wife 7 working days to cancel the contract i.e. your wife should contact Aims Review to cancel the contract.

- in addition Aims Review may give a cooling off period (unlikely but read any communications it has sent you), allowing your wife to cancel the contract.

- if the above fails your wife can claim from the credit card company (not necessary to first or also claim from the supplier - Aims) under 1) 'charge back' regulations (complicated to explain but in your communication with the credit card company just ask whether or not a 'charge back' is possible; or 2) s.75 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 (as explained previously). s.75 allows for compensation (part, all or more of actual credit card expenditure) if a supplier - Aims - misrepresents (google away, but basically lies or exaggerates) the facts or terms of the contract and your wife relied upon that misrepresentation (i.e. she was induced to enter into the contract). So, from what you've said it's possible that Aim misled your wife by saying that she already had a valid PPI claim waiting so if she signed up by paying £150 she'd get that PPI refunded/compensation - which is extremely likely to be untrue. The remedy would be based upon what your wife would have done had she been told the truth (rather than to make the misrepresentation true) e.g. most likely she would not have entered into the contract and paid the £150, therefore the credit card company needs to refund the £150 (irrespective of whether or not it gets the money back from Aims Review).

- If the credit card company delays the refund and interest is incurred on the £150 then that interest is also refundable.

- If the credit card company unduly delays the refund you should formally complain and await either the refund or what is known as a 'final response' letter (max 8 weeks from initial complaint) explaining why your complaint has been rejected. It is at that stage you can refer your complaint to FOS (just call them). Likely your complaint will take a few months at FOS to be considered (they're extremely busy!) but they'll consider compensation based on: loss (£150 + int + cost of calls/letters etc) and 'distress and inconvenience £25-£100 compensation for the hassle of the credit card company not acting correctly and promptly.

- Your wife has a duty to mitigate her loss i.e. reduce impact, so, for example, no withholding usual monthly payment to the credit card company.

- May be worthwhile a read of the FOS site at http://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/. Just search for section 75 and/or misrepresentation and PPI if you have ever bought PPI.

Hope that helps but let me know if there's anything unclear.

Edited, to add:

suggested summary action, in case it's unclear:
1) contact Aims Review to cancel contract and obtain £150 refund;
2) write/email to credit card company (keep copies) asking that your wife be refunded £150 as she relied upon a misrepresentation before making the payment and under s.75 CCA 1974 (as above) the credit card company is equally liable.
3) if above fails, formally complain to credit card company.
4) if that fails or no final response within max 8 weeks refer complaint to FOS.
 
very comprehensive list there Mike, thank you. Would you advise me to contact the credit card company now or wait the 30 days..
 
Now - the cc company may be asking you to wait 30 days whilst it attempts a 'charge back' - basically it asks for the money back. But that route is uncertain and, imo, you have a much stronger case under s.75. So, contact CC company and ask for a refund under s.75 due to misrepresentation.

A couple of things to watch for:

- check that your wife did use a credit card (not a debit or charge card) and it was a personal one, not a company card.
- your wife entered into the contract on her own behalf, not to buy the 'service' for another party e.g. you.

Good luck.
 
stevebuk":3ij2kb1b said:
Aims review phoned again today and spoke to my wife and when she said could you just have a word with my husband he put the phone down on me before i could speak, and he was the quaity control person, hah..

Good info from Mike. Just to add to your above note, be sure to follow the company complaints procedure.

Since they produced it ... they are duty bound to follow it.

And the quality control person might just find himself in a spot of bother. You should be able to demonstrate (to anyone) that you have complied with their established procedures.

http://www.aimsreview.com/complaints-procedure.html
 
Well thanks a lot guys, i really appreciate it.

I will contact the CC company in the morning and let you know what happens with it..
 
Right then, i spoke to a very helpful chap at the CC today who said quite frankly he is surprised that i was given the FOS information and especially the s 75 bit as he reckons anyone that has worked for the FOS should know that they have to wait 30 days to make a 'Charge Back' to comply with MasterCard regulations and if they act before this time it could be seen as a fault and could jeopardise proceedings..

Thanks for all the information, it has helped me along the way and now its in their hands and only time will tell if we are successful in getting back the money..
 
stevebuk":3v0z3etg said:
they have to wait 30 days to make a 'Charge Back' to comply with MasterCard regulations

and if they act before this time it could be seen as a fault and could jeopardise proceedings..

This is the sort of thinking that used to frustrate so much. What the cc company (which one, by the way?) is saying is that it takes more notice of what it has agreed in a private contract between it and the credit card scheme (MasterCard here but Visa have a similar scheme) than what the law says (s.75 of the Consumer Credit Act)! These credit card scheme rules are what gives rise to the ability to attempt a charge back.

The other thing that CC companies don't recognise is that their customers never see these rules (they're private, indeed confidentially held away from public scrutiny) and no reference is made to them in the contract between customer and cc company. Therefore, customers have no 'right' to rely on them - hence my suggestion that you pursue the s.75 route.

Also, just because it has to wait 30 days doesn't mean you have to. Again, the cc company is taking it's own position above yours.

....it could be seen as a fault...
and could jeopardise proceedings

by whom and why? Suspect this is a thinly disguised bit of bullying ('we know better') which reflects their training/mind set i.e. Company and internal rules more important than customers or what's right (in law).

Anyway, starting to sound like a rant, so will stop.

Look forward to updates as and when.
 
hi mike
the chap said to me they dont like waiting the 30 days but are bound to by the rules as stated by mastercard, he said they have a high percentage of success with claims like this as they 'do things' right from the off, and even if they rebuff the claim they will still 'have another go'..
My CC company is Amazon, Bank of America, who i might add to be fair have been really good with me, they even phoned me back when the line went down during our conversation..

Rant away, i love reading it..
 
Good luck Steve, keep us informed.

I had a car on Auto Trader some years back and had no calls, just as the ad was coming to an end and I was thinking of re-advertising they rang me to ask how I had gone on. I said that was handy I was going t re ring you to re advertise. The girl asked for my card details again as they don't save them in the interest of security. I gave them and as I put the phone down thought 'what did I just do...they rang me, could have been anyone'.

It was a scam outfit based in Blackpool. The police tracked them down and prosecuted them after several months. I never got my money back.
They had a website with a similar name to Auto Trader which my ad was on. They swore blind they had not used the Auto Trader name when they rang me. So technically they had cold called me and sold me an ad (on an unadvertised website with zero chance of selling the car).
 
hi graham,
do we take our hats off to them for being clever and basically asking for money which we sometimes all to quickly give, or are they scamming gits and we are victims of their lies and deceit.. I cant decide.
 
stevebuk":1hwhnc1l said:
hi graham,
do we take our hats off to them for being clever and basically asking for money which we sometimes all to quickly give, or are they scamming gits and we are victims of their lies and deceit.. I cant decide.

We're victims Steve. I prided myself on being sharp enough to see anything like that coming....I was wrong. I was livid at the time. Probably as much with myself as anything. They're always going to be there, we just have to be ever vigilant.
 
I have emailed twice to Aims Review and sent 2 letters to their business address and as of today they have contacted me and said they will forward a form for me to fill in and upon receipt of said form they will credit my account with the refund.. we await the form..
 
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