A question for Terry Smart

[Lord Nibbo]

Which sanding sealer will give me the strongest/hardest finnish on walnut, Cellulose or Acrylic?

I'm not interested in a high gloss finnish as I intend to use 0000 wire wool after one coat of sealer and use wire wool to apply black bison wax.

I'm still an advocate of just using finishing oil & wire wool then as already mentioned wirewool with black bison, so would cellulose or acrylic sanding sealer be a harder/stronger finish than finishing oil?

 

[houtslager]

Sorry to butt in here LN - cellulose would be a beter finish preferably pre cat semi matt, if you don't mind the " fruit drop" smell , but if you suffer from any from of headaches/nasea then better avoid these types of lacquers and step over to water based acryli based finishes even if they are " softer "

best of luck HS - upto my ankles in oak shavings

 

[Terry Smart]

Acrylic Sanding Sealer is pretty tough and hard wearing, but Cellulose will give you a slightly harder wearing finish.

Whilst this would be harder than Finishing Oil, it depends on what you are making as Finishing Oil gives a lot of protection without being a tough coating; it is more flexible which would be a good thing and requires more maintenance, although this is easy to perform.

 

[the_g_ster]

Lord Nibbo,

At risk of having Terry on my case, I would say just go for a carefully applied number of layers of oil.

G

 

[Terry Smart]

No offence taken, I wasn't really trying to promote one product over the other, just offering advice on their properties.
We're in the fortunate position of selling both types of product which generally means we can advise on what we think will be the best product rather than promoting the one we sell, so don't worry, I won't be on anyone's case!

 

[Lord Nibbo]

Acrylic Sanding Sealer is pretty tough and hard wearing, but Cellulose will give you a slightly harder wearing finish.

Whilst this would be harder than Finishing Oil, it depends on what you are making as Finishing Oil gives a lot of protection without being a tough coating; it is more flexible which would be a good thing and requires more maintenance, although this is easy to perform.

I'm making a HiFi unit out of American Black Walnut, but I want the finish to match a Walnut dining table I've bought, the finish is glass smooth but not glossy, satin would be a better description. I have achieved this sort of finish before using two coats of cellulose sealer rubbed down with wire wool then waxed using black bison, how many coats of finishing oil do you think it would take to achieve a similar look/feel?

 

[Terry Smart]

That's not an easy question to answer, probably around three coats but you'd have to judge it yourself as you go. As you intend to wire wool and wax afterwards this shouldn't be such an issue.
However, now knowing the project you are working on, I'd go for the Sanding Sealer option as it'll be much quicker and will give you the result you are looking for.
Unless you anticipate the unit having a very hard life, this finish should be more than suitable.

Again, both routes will give you the desired effect, I just like the easier ones!

 

[Lord Nibbo]

Thank you Terry for the prompt reply