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    Bench plane review - Record #4 vs Millers Falls

    having rankled at the phrase 'marketing gimmick' I now discover the MF marketing department had the answer after all! Look at one of their inaugural adverts from September 1929 (below) which contains a handy demonstration of their invention. I have duly tried the test and can confirm it...
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    Bench plane review - Record #4 vs Millers Falls

    quite right ED65 - I am embarrassed to admit that I have been using the term my entire adult life and have never really understood what it meant :oops:
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    Robert Sorby - 3 CROWNS logo

    another recommendation for this book - you can buy it directly from Mr Bailey at a very reasonable price, particularly when you think of the mind-boggling amount of work that went into creating it
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    Bench plane review - Record #4 vs Millers Falls

    There are only two ways the blade can flex in use - either because the unsupported part at the cutting edge bends in front of where it contacts the frog, or because it bends after that point, with the contact point acting as a fulcrum and the blade arching away from the frog behind it. Several...
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    Bench plane review - Record #4 vs Millers Falls

    Thanks Ivan, prompted by your post I took a look at the brilliant compendium of Woodworker articles from when Hayward was editor: https://lostartpress.com/products/the-woodworker-the-charles-hayward-years i did not realise that the sole of bailey planes was deliberately made thin under the...
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    Are there any Saw Doctors left?

    I have used those head mounted magnifiers also, but I find them unpleasant to use. I think it may be a design issue with mine, though, as the lenses are suspended a couple of inches in front of your eyes (I note that John’s are encased in plastic) and this means when you move your head you...
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    Bench plane review - Record #4 vs Millers Falls

    I would be interested to hear opinions on the MF lever cap also. The nearest comparisson seems to be the clifton and record 2 part cap-irons and it is interesting to read the reviews on this site. Certainly there are some people who do not get on with them, but those that do - and there seem...
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    Bench plane review - Record #4 vs Millers Falls

    it is hinged about 1 inch back from the toe. The front part fits over the "hump" of the cap iron and applies pressure accros the width. About 1 1/2'' back of the tip are two "legs" which press the blade against the frog. It means that the iron is under pressure at three points rather than...
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    Bench plane review - Record #4 vs Millers Falls

    ha ha - i think your (non-existant) Stanley's are safe for now. However, for all those peope who are now throwing away their thick blades and stay-sets as a result of the above bombshell, please could one of you PM me so I could arrange collection of a few? This is only In the interest of...
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    Bench plane review - Record #4 vs Millers Falls

    Cap Iron Geometry We already saw that Record failed to implement Bailey's design, how about the MF? The MF has a distinct hump compared to Record's sllight buldge, and as a consequence the cap iron is in contact with the blade over a much larger area. And we have not even got to the clever bit...
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    Bench plane review - Record #4 vs Millers Falls

    Sounds like a missed measuring opportunity in my review D_W, but I will note that the MF and Record totes look almost identical in this case. Cap irons etc Here we go - our favourite source of plane-related controversy, the cap iron. Some people say you can have too many cap-iron debates...
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    Bench plane review - Record #4 vs Millers Falls

    thanks g7 - good to know they finally got with the action re. grinding angle instructions. Here is part III: blades and other components Apparently MF sometimes used steel blade-depth adjuster knobs, this one is brass. Good show, but it is much lighter than the one supplied by Record, which...
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    Bench plane review - Record #4 vs Millers Falls

    in the spirit of rigorous investigation, I had another close look at both castings today - the Record really is excellent - little details like the way the top of the sides are not only ground smooth, but gently rounded over are really nice and the raised lettering on the sole is refined and...
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    Are there any Saw Doctors left?

    well there was a long tradition of saw doctors in the UK, and they were kept busy by tradesman who would all have been able to sharpen their edge tools - pressumably because a) it takes longer to sharpen a saw than a plane iron, and b) because most of us suffer from deterioration in our...
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    Bench plane review - Record #4 vs Millers Falls

    thanks for the info on paint ED65, and I hope someone can answer your question on American beech - the tote is noticably lighter than the Record (although I am not sure my super high-tech kitchen scales could detect the difference!). Fair point on weight, which I realize is a matter of personal...
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    Bench plane review - Record #4 vs Millers Falls

    doh! I was hoping no one would notice that. I will weigh the screw tomorrow and report back.
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    Bench plane review - Record #4 vs Millers Falls

    I certainly will Bm101! Mr Ttrees, I did indeed measure the thickness of the soles, but my very high levels of journalistic integrity meant I had to keep the information to myself. However, now you've asked, here we go. They are the same! 4.7mm. The problem, though, is that I have flattened...
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    Bench plane review - Record #4 vs Millers Falls

    glad you are enjoying it Giuliano! Here is part II: Fit, finish and castings Castings The Record frog and plane body are both heavier than the MF, with the Record having slightly thicker sides and a more substantial reinforced bar across the width of the toe. Oddly one of the things that...
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    North Bros "Yankee" Bench Drill - how it works

    cheers Geoff, and here is an advert for your drill from 1917, from my latest favourite research archive - the popular mechanics archive: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=9NwDAAAAMBAJ&lpg=RA1-PA149&dq=north%20bros%20chain%20drill&pg=RA1-PA149#v=onepage&q&f=false
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    Bench plane review - Record #4 vs Millers Falls

    In a bout of self sacrifice I have acquired yet another metal smoother so that I could answer the question on everyone's mind: who made the best planes, Record or Millers Falls? Given Millers Falls were a US based company, a better question would have been: who made the best planes, Stanley...
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