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    Evolution of the Record 52 1/2 quick release vice

    I have not really looked at many of the engineer vices but the pics I have seen all have the spring near the trigger, as per the original patent (e.g below). There is a listing for an early Record woodworkers' vice on ebay at the moment with some pics of the underside (reproduced below). My...
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    yankee full house

    lovely stuff Claus - I am particularly envious of the 1005. You do need to put a handle on your 1003 though!
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    English Workbench Build

    well since you ask, here is my first flattening update. I really had no excuses since over the past couple of years I have bought and refurbished a number of planes including a no5 and no 7 which ought to be a good combination for this type of job and I made sure the irons were very sharp...
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    English Workbench Build

    glued and nailed - not a complicated job, but I rehearsed it just in case. What could go wrong I hear you ask? Well, nothing major but my nails were slightly too long and poked out the other side of the legs. I suppose only I will know (and whoever reads this thread) but they lurk there...
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    yankee full house

    this post reminded me that I have a 130A that I mislaid so long ago I had forgotten all about it. I have just found it in the understairs cupboard, so thanks for that! PS I also have a yankee 1003 bench drill which is far harder to mislay. North Bros were a brilliant factory - did the produce...
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    English Workbench Build

    quite possibly, although you might have to eat your words in 100 years time when it is still in one piece :). The benefit in my case is that I am learning the basics so the more opportunities to practice on something real, the better. For instance, I have done enough housings now to get my...
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    English Workbench Build

    thanks Custard! Not very interesting, but I cut the housings for the braces - I also made the housing for the unnecessary leg brace deeper so it fits properly. Next step is to glue and nail it all together. erk! I have been giving some thought to fitting the vice - although apparently not...
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    English Workbench Build

    back to the bench at the weekend - I was feeling a bit under the weather and made more gaffs than really necessary, but the end result is at least starting to look like a bench. I am glad I did the wedges - it has added an hour or so (most of which was spent making the wedges - a top tip is to...
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    Evolution of the Record 52 1/2 quick release vice

    I have added a couple of pics below which will hopefully make it clearer. Here is a (relatively!) recent Parkinson vice - you can see there is flat coiled spring on the inside of the front jaw - this spring pushes on the flat bar which in turn pushes up on the half nut, pressing it to the...
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    Evolution of the Record 52 1/2 quick release vice

    I have become obsessed with finding out more about the Parky pattern vices, in particular I would like to find out about the change in spring design. Possibly I have too much time on my hands at the moment! There is a HUGE thread on vices on the garage journal forum -...
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    Evolution of the Record 52 1/2 quick release vice

    thanks Andy , I must have missed that at the time. Hats off to bugbear for rather more thorough detective work than I managed!
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    Evolution of the Record 52 1/2 quick release vice

    thanks gwr - I was trying to see if it is possible to date Parkinson's vices but I suspect it will be very hard to tie down to a very narrow date range. Here is what I found out: We know the Parkinson perfect instantaneous grip was made from 1895 onwards, the earliest picture I can find of...
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    Hand plane sole flatness?

    in case it is useful, having experimented with a number of abrasives when flattening soles I found these rolls to be a good balance between cost and the amount of time you can use them before they clog/wear out/rip. https://www.workshopheaven.com/material ... rolls.html If you have access to...
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    Evolution of the Record 52 1/2 quick release vice

    following the slightly disappointing denouement to my Toles investigation, I thought I'd mention one other US vice I came across while researching. It is made by Richards Wilcox, Illinois, and is interesting because it has an elegant gravity fed quick release and is clearly an extremely well...
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    Evolution of the Record 52 1/2 quick release vice

    I am pretty sure that 774 is in fact a rebadged Toles, apart from the use of their marketing phrase of 'rapid action' there are lots of visual similarities, not least the nuts used to attach the steel rods. I glanced at the one in 772 and assumed it was a Entwistle and Keynon, but there is a...
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    Evolution of the Record 52 1/2 quick release vice

    so they did! - you can see it on the bottom of p165 of the 1905 catalogue: https://archive.org/stream/MelhuishCata ... 7/mode/2up twice the price of the parky :shock:
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    Evolution of the Record 52 1/2 quick release vice

    there is a second patent (1896) for the Toles vice and it shows a slightly modified design of the half nut (that matches the picture of the dismantled vice above) and this patent has a clearer explanation that made me look again at the photo of the parts laid out. If you look closely you will...
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    Evolution of the Record 52 1/2 quick release vice

    yes it makes you wonder how many were lost due to breakages - in comparison it is hard to imagine breaking any part of the Record unless you were really making an effort!
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    Evolution of the Record 52 1/2 quick release vice

    a quick detour into US made vices. Having mentioned the Toles QR vise I thought I take a look at how it worked. The advantage of this quick-release mechanism is that it allows you to rapidly adjust the position of the jaws and then grip the work-piece without changing the position of your hand...
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    Evolution of the Record 52 1/2 quick release vice

    I'd be very interested to see some pics of your vice, if you have any... it turns out that Steel Nut & J. Hampton ltd (Woden) filed a patent in 1906 that aimed to resolve potential issues with the cast sliders (they suggested adding rollers to reduce wear and friction). I doubt it ever got...
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