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    Who is in and who is out?

    The New York Times is hardly gutter press like The Sun. Just to pick some quotes from it's Wikipedia entry; "The New York Times has won 117 Pulitzer Prizes, more than any other newspaper." "In a December 19, 2012, column published in the left-leaning The Huffington Post, economics professor and...
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    Who is in and who is out?

    Unless we're stupid enough to vote out, it all goes wrong and we have to go back, cap in hand, to the EU to try and rejoin.
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    Who is in and who is out?

    The issue shouldn't be where the legislation is made, but if it's good legislation. There's a lot of disabled people that haven't been too happy lately about the laws made in the UK by a British elected government.
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    Who is in and who is out?

    Largely self-inflicted after they borrowed way beyond their ability to repay. Then banks thought it might be a good idea to try to recover some of the money they(we) were owed. The UK has pretty huge debts too. If things go as badly as some people forecast with a leave vote, the international...
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    Who is in and who is out?

    Another interesting and unbiased opinion of the referendum from a respected USA paper. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/19/opini ... ef=opinion
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    Who is in and who is out?

    Check your facts the Iraq war was in 2003, Twitter was founded in 2006.
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    Who is in and who is out?

    Quite right too. The democratically elected government and the majority of MPs want the UK to remain in the EU.
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    Yandles

    I was in Yandles earlier this week and heard some sad news. Apparently the owner has had a stroke and things haven't been going as profitably as they would like. The gallery has closed and it looks like the craft shop and cafe are making a loss, so will be closed later this year too. The wood...
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    Who is in and who is out?

    It absolutely isn't. If it became overwhelming clear that we'd be better off outside of the union at some future time, we would be able to leave just as we can now. At that point there should be some sort of credible plan as to how to exit and what the advantages would definitely be, not just a...
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    Who is in and who is out?

    That's not the question though and just cherry picking the things that are less favourable doesn't help provide any clarity. The other side could be; Would you want to join the EU if it gave you rights to fish through other country's waters, allowed you a great supply of cheap skilled labour to...
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    Who is in and who is out?

    There's the other option of staying in and continuing to press for better policies to control unwanted migration and it's consequences. Most other European countries are waking up to the issues of unwanted population movement and it's likely that sooner, rather than later, the issue will become...
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    Who is in and who is out?

    I've just read of the tragic murder of Jo Cox. I don't always agree with Polly Toynbee, but her piece about this atrocity makes poignant reading; http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... type=Email For those that are too blinkered to read anything from the Guardian might contemplate these...
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    Who is in and who is out?

    Asking people (who should know better) to post clearly isn't 'patronising'.
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    Who is in and who is out?

    This thread is about the current debate on the referendum, not sweeping comments on all of history. You know that.
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    Who is in and who is out?

    It doesn't need a plan, because it will be business as usual. Just with a few minor improvements Cameron secured. Hopefully a remain decision will also focus people's mind on who they elect as MEPs in future. Then the UK will be better represented rather than the non-attendance and participation...
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    Who is in and who is out?

    There are probably about half a million people who will benefit from leaving. The fishing magnates, the right wing politicians who crave power, lots of legal folk that will have a full workload dealing with replacement legislation, some of the media moguls that want exclusive UK power* and a few...
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    Who is in and who is out?

    Which is the exact problem with the leave campaign. No plan and an arrogant assumption that they will become a new government.
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    Who is in and who is out?

    Long dead. We're talking about NOW.
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    Who is in and who is out?

    Move on. It's the twenty first century and we're living in a globalised economy.
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    Who is in and who is out?

    Every one has some sort of 'vested interest' at some level, so that argument doesn't really cut it. The ex-PMs main vested interest is the continual success of the UK that they've all fought so hard for in office. (Shall we add that regardless of party they were all democratically elected) OK...
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