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Why are you quoting from a post that wasn't referring to you? Masks don't protect you - the virus is not spread by coughing alone. The reason for dentists and nhs workers wearing masks is to capture spit not to prevent minute viral particle emissions - because they don't do that! You have been...

The data from Tim Spectors zoe app is starting to show that in all lockdowns the peaks started to fall before the lockdowns. This is human nature/ common sense. You don't need a state imposed lockdown to do this. People adapt to risk and percieved risk. This has always been the case and will...

Leading virologists and epidemiolgists? Come off it John Ioanddis, Sunetra Gupta? They are being silenced! Who are our virologists on sage?

No it wasn't from a single member of staff. Loads of the care home deaths came from kicking people who were ill out of hospital into care homes when they should have stayed in hospital. That caused the massive spike - it was extreme policies like kicking people who needed hospital out of them...

Masks do nothing mate. Its rather sweet you think they do

It increases exponentially from a low base yes, but nearly all viral curves show it levels off quite quickly too. This is pretty well researched stuff ie nothing new. Insulating the elderly is eminent feasible. They do it anyway lots of the time. The evidence from places that didn't lockdown...

I'd have thought Rorsach would have advised Tony that given that he is potentially vulnerable and seemed to have a steady pension then he should have voluntarily done his own lockdown as it was not such a hardship for him?

I think all countries and latitudes have viral seasons. Almost certainly covid deaths displaced flu deaths ie a large amount of those deaths recorded as covid deaths would previously have been flu deaths in the very old, same with pneumonia. When you are old you don't just have one virus - you...

You are writing from a position of extreme comfort. I don't think you have any idea of the number of people out there who have to keep things going in order for you to be able to spend a year shielding. Strangling our economy hits the poor hardest and they have lost the most, them and the young.

Some hospitals did get very very busy for sure, and they did lack PPE and probably in the very early days were caught out. I think to claim the whole NHS was overwhelmed would be incorrect though. There was a lot of PPE hoarding going on too. I don't deny Covid either. Its a nasty disease...

Its comparable with the principle of risk. Everywhere there are risks. Risk mitigation is good. Govts locking down economic lifeblood is not risk mitigation as the deaths elsewhere are worse. Especially as it was clear within 2 weeks that Covid wasn't the black death or ebola. We have not...

You cannot change a fanatic. There is only one narrative with them. When the BBC publishes some stuff the penny might drop.

No its not new but I would think Professor Tim Spector knows more than you. Were they asked if lockdowns were not necessary? No. So they didn't answer a question they weren't asked! You are creating a circular argument for yourself. They put it clear as day that lockdowns 2 and 3 were not...

Not at all - the data is on our worldindata amongst other places

Lets revisit my comment in a few days. I'm pretty sure the data I'm seeing is saying its plateauing. - you won't like this Robin. Info from the ZOE app. Infections dropping before lockdown as I said ages ago. I'm sure those two Professors won't have been as thorough as you....

p.s. the positive rate for India has now plateaued. And no lockdown. Remarkable eh? Who'd have thunk? Virus' curve all the time, all the bloody time.

We had a pandemic response plan in the UK and what did we do? Chuck it out and go for Chinese style lockdown. Even if lockdowns did decrease covid deaths they still wouldn't be worth it - why? Because they increase other deaths as well as we now know. I have a little sympathy for the first...

A govt can argue anything is in our interest if you frame it in a certain way. Especially if they keep repeating the message constantly. Many communist countries did this very successfully. Collective effort is not only successful if rules based at all - that is coercion. Things work best...

Then I suggest you never drive a car. Furthermore what about the risks we have taken with lockdown on all other deaths and livelihoods? Did we look at it? No. The first lockdown had an element of excusability even if it lacked real thought. The second and third did not. No way. The exponential...

Why does it pain you to agree with me?