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Oh right so those events were martial law were they to keep the whole of the populace under control? Get a grip. I'm not the one advocating the army in order to "control" the population from Covid. As I said before we don't do it in the UK and its not going to happen beyond a few army fantasists

These were all isolated incidents, to placate protest or riots in small geographical points of conflict where police were non existent or unable to control the situation. They were not used as a blanket tool for conforming the whole populace under duress. There is a massive difference.

I'll leave your semi flaccid fantasies about the army to yourself. You probably think you sound clever mentioning syntax but just pompous. When have we had martial law in the UK?

How about the 1.6 million people who had covid and didn't die? You almost seem dissapointed they survived! Let alone those who have not been affected. Excess deaths longer term will be where the data is most evident. We will have had excess deaths last April. How do you feel about the 30k...

You have no idea if that is the case. Some countries who didn't do lockdown are not doing worse, especially once the virus has unfiltrated the population.

Don't dismiss these key areas which are showing us another way. The Dakotas too. Florida too

Lockdown doesn't slow transmission. The evidence suggests the transmission is slowing before lockdown. If you say its flawed to state that lockdown based on when cases and deaths fall then ergo shall we do the same for mask wearing then? Because the more masks we have worn the more cases have...

That is nearly a year old and totally oudated. It wasnt a proper quarantine in any form. It did give us a very good idea of how a virus in the petri dish of a ship is becomes limited though and an idea of the IFR of covid early on. The case fatality rate of Covid is very low

Its a tragedy looming. A huge one. Idiots think those jobs will start again after furlough. They won't

You can pretend that we don't have any alternative information on what may have happened if you want but that would be to ignore a history of immunology. It would mean to ignore Sweden and Belarus. Ignore the Diamond Princess petri dish etc. If the internet hadn't been invented we would hardly...

The rich have got very rich and the poor will become poorer.

I don't think lockdown makes any difference I've told you that. I wasn't against the very first one for a few weeks whilst we got our house in order but that went on far too long. The later ones have been pointless and do more harm than good.

The modelling is just that - modelling. The extra covid deaths because of lockdown are 30k for 2020 but have been modelled by Bristol Uni at potentially 500k later on. If that doesn't bother you then you really swallow the whole thing. Infection in the home is way worse now than before

I would rather see the evidence they do work. The huge areas of transmission are care homes and in nosocomial.

It is evidentially seasonal

They probably don't deny that the climate changes - it always has done. They may well be denying the predicted impact of it. What about the those academics who pushed the hockey stick graph?

No every child has not lost education time. Every country will not suffer equally. When will you be happy to lift lockdown? How many deaths a day are acceptable to you? 0? Good luck with that one!

Covidfaq isn't a proper source. Its a chilidish "takedown" of other points of view which are very valid Sunetra Gupta is a very well established professional.

What are you talking about? You are claiming the resident of a care home now starts doing injections? I don't think may 83 year olds work do they?

That isn't a reputable site. I want proper statistical sites not signalling out individuals