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    One-*** efficacy questions

    This is absolutely not the case. There are plenty of USA states and countries that told people to carry on as normal. Even our lockdowns weren't a genuine prevention of mixing they just a collection of daft rules strangling business. Why have we not seen spikes in genuine illness in Schools...
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    Tons? A few in the very early days when no one took any precautions at all. Certainly not tons.
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    How many have been like this? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/covid-christmas-bubble-family-dead-b1793964.html Sounds like some of you may know the same family. By far and away most of the Covid deaths are for very old, very infirm and vulnerable people with an average age of 83.
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    So you cherry pick one family in a vanishingly rare scenario and then extrapolating that to say that other people must only value money over lives? There is evidence out there if you care to look at it that virus' constantly ebb and flow and we should manage with that expectation. Anyway the...
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    If you read my comments after you will see that I took it very much in context Look at Our World in Data and look at the data from India now. Curves slowing, testing massively ramped up so naturally more covid on the pcr. I'm correct about it. You need to look beyond the narrative you are fed...
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    Was on the front page this morning. As I've said before lets see how it evolves in the next 10 days. I'm pretty certain it will level off or decline. Its what virus' do. Media will seek another country then
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    I get what you are saying however the whole message that asymptomatic carrying was a key vector is still wildly overdone. Pandemics are never driven by asymptomatics. No one is seeking the virus out. Also you can't really avoid it anyway. It was already everywhere and endemic last March. Why...
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    "infected" doesn't really mean a lot until people are properly ill. Its madness to pretend everyone who had a positive covid test was ill because they weren't
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    It was a popular narrative that students etc were all being irresponsible but I don't think there was many if any death from last sept-dec for any university students from covid? The biggest issue for covid spread (constantly deflected) were once you go into hospital you were vulnerable as the...
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    Its now filtering through to the BBC that the Indian Covid cases are slowing. So it is potentially safe for you to now entertain the idea that it might be slowing that the BBC has told you this. I said yesterday it appeared to be the case from the data I was looking at - its also an eminently...
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    I'm just astonished so few of you on here see the role of natural immunity. It does a massive job The other issue of course is if the comfy pensioners on here look the other way they may see the damage they do to the poor.
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    I think you need to read the answer properly. I did not say they were covid-free. Covid free is a fantasy
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    Hospitals weren't always all full of covid patients. Many many hospitals were empty. Some were busy for sure but crucially these peaks did not last long - they have not lasted long anywhere in the world - they level off quite quickly and the pattern is the same worldwide - doesn't matter if...
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    One-*** efficacy questions

    Well how about for a start, hospitals that did not have loads of covid patients and never got lots of covid patients stay open for business last year? They didn't.
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    You are making a lot of assumptions there. People change their behaviour based on percieved and actual risk. They don't need a govt edict to do it.
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    To be honest it wouldn't make much difference. The "vulnerable" as you call it were still going to Tesco like everyone else throughout. Viral particles are absolutely everywhere, its rather sweet that you think they can be controlled. If furlough wasn't so convenient a lot more people would...
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    I don't think anyone advocated doing nothing.
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    Lets revisit in a few days as I say. You retired non working types just stick to the BBC reports and I will look at the other data
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    Lets see how it pans out. I would say it is slowing rapidly now.
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