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Thank you all for the replays, you've give more to think about now. The dia over the bed I think may be a must for me also I like the idea of the of head stock turning. I went to Olivers wood turning shop not to long ago and his main lathe is the Ax not sure if its the 1628 or its bigger brother...

can anyone tell me bad things about the at1628vs lathe? I'm hoping to buy one but very hard to find used and from all I read online its the perfect lathe. At the moment looking to turn 350mm dia. over the bed.

like the idea of the english workbench got two old vices in good nic just need to make the space now, workshop full of wood and tools it trying to make up my mind what goes.