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As regards the controller, four options are listed on Ratrig site. Black box motion Black box motion with interface CNC touch controller Pro V5 controller Duet 3 Mainboard 6HC I am not sure which would be best for my needs.

Martin, what Vectric software do you have. I know that the top one is about £1700 for a lifetime license. It would take a long time for me to recoup that. I also think that I would not get the use out it. May be Vcarve would be a possibility but still quite expensive for me as a newby. Does...

Vectric software is well talked about but is also very expensive and may be over the top for basic sign making.

Of course these, YouTubers, usually say that the company from which they have received the item does not affect their review but it is a great way for these companies to get free advertising. I might just make a video of my build probably at least 20 episodes minus the swearing as I make...

What I fine amusing about a number of videos on YouTube is the number of personalities that you see unboxing their new toys, all sorts, and then nothing more on how they get on with the item ever again. 😂

Thanks Ollie, I will have to wait a couple of months as they are extremely busy. They have just moved to a larger warehouse and have taken on more staff. It would not surprise me if their prices go up which is why I have made a decision now. Meanwhile I have been looking at YouTube videos and...

Have really enjoyed the discussion on this thread but for me personally, I am not really after an all singing all dancing CNC. I wish to make simple wooden signs using an CNC and other tools. The speed of the machine is not important to me so I have purchased the killerbee for about £850 not...

The QueenBee pro I believe, is from the USA and is modelled on the workbee. They seem to have bought out the pro inorder to introduce improvement to the original Queenbee. Probably not too different from the killerbee from Portugal but delivery costs from the USA will be much more. The problem...

Other than the z90 I cannot see anything else on eBay at the moment that would fit in with my budget. Are there any other websites that may have used CNC machines.

Thanks, I did look at that earlier, but it is only 38 cm wide (working). I am after something in the order of 60cm wide. You do not have to buy the workbee +upgrade as Rat Rig do their own calling it the killerbee. The issue might be the extra taxes involved due to Brexit.

I think I may have found the answer to my question, the killerbee made in Portugal and based on the workbee but improved.

Just working with wood, mainly flat but in due course I may experiment with some 3D. Not to sure about the cost as this is my first machine.

Thank you to all for an interesting discussion. Can anyone recommend a CNC machine that I could learn on that would not break the bank account. Most if not all the items I want to make will fit into 600 X 600 mm.

I most likely will only be running it for about two to three hours a day. I am semi retired.

Could I see some photos of a k2 and are these available as used machines anywhere?

I know that the workbee is only a hobby machine but would be interested on people's thoughts about it. Also are there any plans out there on building one yourself. I should add that I do not intend to make very large items, mainly signs and small gift items. I have even thought about just...

I had a look at Dean's website. His CNC looks really good and sturdy. Sadly it is a bit off my budget. Does anyone use a Jenny spindle. If so what are your thoughts on it.

F Funny enough, I plan on having mine in the bedroom. I live on my own so no wife to upset. An enclosure will be essential, which I shall make.

I may have a problem with the weight of a water cooled spindle as my upper limit is 3kg. This is going to be my first CNC, a workbee probably due to space requirements. I want a good router that will last a while.

Thanks for the replying