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There seems to be a habit of thinking that being against Israel's way of prosecuting war in Gaza is "anti-Semitic", not "anti Israeli policy" - the two are not interchangeable. There are many Jews who disagree with Israel's war in Gaza - should we call them anti Semitic?

Fair enough.

No there ain't, or we wouldn't be in this mess.

Like the look of that, but it looks a bit unstable, left to right...

That may be true, but why is it funny?

I hear they think Irony is the autobiography of one of their previous presidents...

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And how does that answer my question?

Jacob, I have to wonder: Given that you accept your style of argument only puts people's backs up and never changes their minds on anything, why do you persist? Surely if you actually wanted to win the argument, a more reasoned and reasonable approach would do the job better? Or given your...

Glad it's you living in your head and not me!

Kind of with you on that, though I'm not anti vaccines as a rule. It would be interesting to see how the relevant people came to the conclusion it was worth the money - a cost/benefit analysis would be interesting - it may work out cheaper than treating the "mild cases"...

I can - think about all those closed factories and so on. Not saying I know it did though, which is why I was asking for the source of the figures.

Like what you're saying and I'm your side in this discussion, but any chance you could let us know the source of that? It just might go some way to convincing more people...

I was referring to the batteries in all the EVs...

Strikes me you're looking for reasons to stick with ICE, rather than looking for the opportunities presented by an evolving situation. Insurance is higher for EVs, I grant you, but that cost is much more than offset in cost per mile travelled for the average user. We have a tariff that changes...

The insurance issue has not been true for us. We do probably 100 miles a day - charge at night, always much cheaper than fossil. EVs are coming down in price. EVs are usually given a thorough going over before resale, so the battery condition is known to a new owner. Having had a shunt in...

Most people at the bottom of the pile right now who own cars, own second-hand cars - why would that change when the majority of second-hand cars become EV? Even at this point in their adoption, I've never in my life owned a new car, but we're currently on our second EV...

Haggis

Except of course for the increased amount of material in a heavier car - it all has to come from somewhere and the amount of energy used to actually make the car in the first place is very significant.

Ta! She is, 93 and stubborn - if she'd listened to me earlier in the day, she would have had a quick visit from the local GP and we wouldn't have had to waste the time of an ambulance crew, but she wouldn't give in until too late in the day. Lesson learned: next time I'll override her!