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Cheers, Jarno. Just to be clear, I wasn't saying it was 60 years, the seller was. And I wasn't suggesting this was a 'legitimate clone', if people are selling knock-offs, they're going to copy the originals. I'm not even arguing that was a knock-off (although I suspected it at one point), I...

I think PaulB was referring to the blade being rare, which they are. I have spent several hours looking for the 778 spares and simply blades on their own. The only sources I can find are out of stock and not responding to emails. I've managed to purchase a good condition Record 778 on ebay...

Hahaha, I would love to give them that credit. But, nah.

I have diamond stone, so it shouldn't be much of a problem after the first honing. Cheers for the tip, I'll take a look at that.

Yeah, the injured pride part of me wants to do that (I'm 99% sure they knew it wasn't the one on the box and still don't believe them about the blades), but being wrong and slandering someone is a risk, so I'm going to point out the facts on the review and let people judge for themselves. I...

OK, cheers. Sounds like I should stop worrying about getting the original, as long as it's not a poor quality one.

Thanks for chipping in. Do you find they hold the edge longer? Or isn't it an appreciable difference? I haven't seen one of those circular planes before... very interesting. I may have a look at the combination planes, too. I guess you can do grooves as well as rebates with them? I suppose...

Yeah, now the 'new car smell' has worn off, I can see it for what it is. A cheap version in an old box. I did pay by paypal, and they've accepted a return, but I'm tempted to out them as a hooky practice. Yeah, I was wondering about that. The paint is layered on so thick, it's also covering...

Amen to that! I've spent several hours now looking through this mound of horse manure and I can safely say that at least 50% of 'vintage' is either re-boxed newish stock or simply battered to bits.

Cheers, mate! That's confirmed what I've been suspecting (been trying to figure out when and where it is from since last night on and off). It's clearly not even close to 'vintage' (I know that just means 'a period of high quality', but considering quality has been going downhill for decades...

OMG, I've just realised I've been conned. Looking at the image on the box, it's not even the same bloomin plane! The original Record 778 has a bare iron support exposed just behind the iron, going down to the shoe. This one cuts in (away) from the side and is painted. It's also lighter blue...

Thanks, Droogs. I was starting to doubt myself, but it seems like a half-arsed attempt to get rid of some old stock. edit: hahaha, pineappled! Nice swear replacement.

Ah, that Ray Iles one is the one i've bookmarked for possible purchase. it seems to be 01 grade steel, which isn't as good as Tungsten (so I think), but is better than the bulk of replicas I've seen. update: I should say that that link you provided to the Ray iles one doesn't go to the same...

Cheers, Tom, but that place is actually out of stock. I feel like I've exhausted all the easy to find places with searches for 'record 778' and the like.

Hi there, I just bought a 'vintage' Record 778 plans from an ebay seller. It was supposed to be brand new, boxed, unopened, but it's arrived and has clearly been opened (the advert pics showed it open on table) and the blade is missing. Everything else is in perfect order. The seller is...