Brand New Sorby Pro edge forum.

[Random Orbital Bob]

Hi Folks

This should excite Jacob

I'm sure many of you will have heard of Jeff Farris from across the pond. Jeff was an early adopter of the Tormek water based grinding system in the USA. He ran a successful sharpening specialist business which provided a number of new innovations into the world of tool sharpening, the one he became closely associated with was of course the Tormek. Perhaps a number of you will remember an early episode of the New Yankee Workshop where Norm has a Tormek demo'd and then goes on to construct a dedicated sharpening station...well that's Jeff.

Jeff ran a forum for Tormek users (still running today) which really gets under the skin of water based grinding and helps provides solutions to all manner of sharpening challenges. That's how I bumped into him as I'm a member of that community too.

Well it so happens Jeff's a turner too and a pretty good one at that. If you do any youtube searches on Tormek jigs, Jeff's the guy doing most of the demo's and he's also doing the turning in any videos where footage of actual usage is shown.

What's the point of all this I hear you cry?

Well he's recently signed up to help Sorby take the Pro-Edge to the USA and we were chatting. I recently bought a pro-edge and happened to mention that a dedicated forum for that would also be a dam good plan since there wasn't one and I had a few questions etc etc. Well, Jeff doesn't hang about and next minute, t'Interweb is positively throbbing with a new pro edge forum.

http://robert-sorby.freeforums.net/

So anyone who has one and has always been niggled by.......(insert your gripe here) or you just want to share an amazing thing you did with yours, feel free to have a gander, sign up and start posting. This should build into a useful resource if its anything like the way the Tormek one went.

 

[Grahamshed]

I will be all over that Bob

 

[Grahamshed]

So Bob, are you Rob ?

 

[Doug B]

This should excite Jacob

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Not at the mo he'll be too mellowed out :lol: :lol: :lol:


Thanks for the heads up, one to watch.

 

[Random Orbital Bob]

So Bob, are you Rob ?

I am Graham. Rob had already gone when I joined this forum so Random Orbital Bob conveniently abbreviated to Rob. Please start posting anything you want because Jeff will start responding and he has the full weight of Sorby's tek folks behind him. He moderates the Tormek forum and has done so for about a decade or so and he really knows his onions. We'll be in on the ground floor so to speak.

 

[Jacob]

This should excite Jacob

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Not at the mo he'll be too mellowed out :lol: :lol: :lol:


Thanks for the heads up, one to watch.

No me Doug. not a whiff. :shock: Just tulips, windmills and yellow-brick roads. *
Been to Nederlands on me bike. I have a dutch staircase question to ask later when I've done the snaps.

* and beer.

 

[Jacob]

Hi Folks

This should excite Jacob
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Not excited yet!
Proedge is just a linisher slightly adapted for sharpening. Slight advantage over a bog standard linisher but not a lot to write home about. Expensive but well made. Plenty of cheaper alternatives.
NB a belt sander (whatever shape or design more or less) is vastly superior to a small diameter grind wheel, for sharpening and shaping.

 

[Spindle]

Hi Jacob

Out of interest, do you grind towards or away from the edge when using a belt sander?

Regards Mick

 

[carlb40]

Hi Jacob

Out of interest, do you grind towards or away from the edge when using a belt sander?

Regards Mick

I would suggest away for safety reasons, so the edge cannot dig into the belt. Or side ways as i tried a few times when i had a belt sander.

 

[Random Orbital Bob]

Hi Folks

This should excite Jacob
.......

Not excited yet!
Proedge is just a linisher slightly adapted for sharpening. Slight advantage over a bog standard linisher but not a lot to write home about. Expensive but well made. Plenty of cheaper alternatives.
NB a belt sander (whatever shape or design more or less) is vastly superior to a small diameter grind wheel, for sharpening and shaping.

I agree with you there Jacob. I've only owned my pro-edge for a few weeks but I'm finding it extremely useful for turning tools.

 

[Jacob]

Hi Jacob

Out of interest, do you grind towards or away from the edge when using a belt sander?

Regards Mick

Towards. There may be a good reason but I don't know what it is. I'll try it the other way.

 

[Random Orbital Bob]

if you grind towards an edge you remove steel faster typically as the belt pushes the tool into the belt. Grinding away from the belt wants to lift the tool so is generally a less aggressive cut (and safer)

 

[Spindle]

Cheers Jacob

I think the main reason to grind towards the edge is a hang over from carbon steel days where 'towards the edge' keeps the edge cooler.
The aspect I'm considering is the tendency to produce a convex bevel at the tool edge when grinding towards the tool - (I'm aware of your advocacy for convex bevels but I'm not sure they have a place on turning tools).

Regards Mick

 

[Jacob]

Cheers Jacob

I think the main reason to grind towards the edge is a hang over from carbon steel days where 'towards the edge' keeps the edge cooler.

That's it then. Makes sense.

The aspect I'm considering is the tendency to produce a convex bevel at the tool edge when grinding towards the tool - (I'm aware of your advocacy for convex bevels but I'm not sure they have a place on turning tools).

Regards Mick

Can't see why a convex bevel would be a problem. I've done some turning and never found it so.
NB splitting hairs but I don't actually advocate convex bevels as such - it's just that they are an incidental by product of a quick n easy sharpening method. Just as 2 bevels is a product of other methods. The shape/number of bevels don't matter in the slightest as long as the thing is sharp at the edge.

 

[Grahamshed]

I agree with you there Jacob. I've only owned my pro-edge for a few weeks but I'm finding it extremely useful for turning tools.

+1

 

[Tony Spear]

Cheers Jacob

I think the main reason to grind towards the edge is a hang over from carbon steel days where 'towards the edge' keeps the edge cooler.

That's it then. Makes sense.

The aspect I'm considering is the tendency to produce a convex bevel at the tool edge when grinding towards the tool - (I'm aware of your advocacy for convex bevels but I'm not sure they have a place on turning tools).

Regards Mick

Can't see why a convex bevel would be a problem. I've done some turning and never found it so.
NB splitting hairs but I don't actually advocate convex bevels as such - it's just that they are an incidental by product of a quick n easy sharpening method. Just as 2 bevels is a product of other methods. The shape/number of bevels don't matter in the slightest as long as the thing is sharp at the edge.

Except for turning tools, when the last thing you want is multiple bevels.